Armed Assault Players sound off

[Hovis]

So it's official. The game is quality. Online play works fine. Next patch is bringing in persistent worlds. Flight model is hard as fuck, but the reason is that it allows more control.

So anyway who's playing? It's time to get an RL crew together.

Edited to add, I've done some looking around at the persistent worlds options. Basically the potential is there to create something akin to Planetside, but with Armed Assault, a continual war for the island (or at least continual until somebody wins). That could just be the Holy Grail, the game that replaces Planetside.

[Nyana]

Ordered SIR!

Ready to scramble within 2 days. Vehicle operator, slash pilot, slash sniper reporting for duty!

Practicing on a german "extended trial" version atm :D

[Gunhead]

Got it, like it quite a lot. Haven't tried online yet but that persistent world mode sounds uber. The single player campaign's awesome alone, playing something like that with people instead of the artificial "intelligence" (why does it seem that the enemy AI is by far more advanced than the boneheads on your side? Are they trying to simulate yanks accurately? :D :p ) friendlies would be just brilliant.

PS. Btw i love the infantry damage modelling in ArmA although it has its annoyances in single player: you get hit in the head you're dead, you can take a round or two on your body (ballistic vests) or arms but your aim will start to be rather shitty since you can't hold the rifle steady anymore and - my favourite bit - if you get shot in the legs you can kneel or sometimes even stand up but you ain't going anywhere standing tall. On one campaing mission was doing pretty well until a crewman from abandoned tank fookin dinged me in legs. Dropped the bugger but - i shit you not - had to CRAWL around 30 mins on the desert to get to nearby US camp and field hospital. No game for impatient ADHD twitch-kiddies this one i tell ya. :p

[Pegasus]

I'll order it as soon as I have £££'s just spent 500 on my car :P#


Im sure after a pilot/sniper role.

[Flufball]

Soon as I can get out to buy the damn thing (or as soon as I can afford to add another item to the large list of things ordered online) then you can count me in.

Not sure what role as I've not tried the game yet.

[Hovis]

Guys I know we all love the easy mode kill-everybody-with-no-comebacks life of a sniper, but be aware that basically all a sniper is in ArmA is a grunt who can't cut it when people shoot back. Not that I have anything against snipers (noooo not a bit of it, bastards) but I think if we're going to put anything together as an outfit the emphasis will need to be on real infantry as the core constituent.

My advice for players starting out or looking to brush up on what we'll need is get in the mission builder and set yourself up some infantry fights. Proper infantry. That means rifles without newbscopes, enemies well within their own engagement range, and learning the fine art of running the fuck away from anything you don't have the weaponry to kill.

What I envision for RL in Armed Assault is a more grown up version of our presence in Planetside. We take what we had in Planetside, the discipline and the skill at killing and we improve upon it. We learn how to move outdoors as infantry (something we never grasped, or really needed to, in PS), we learn a bit of patience, we learn how to run teams of players when each player has an AI squad in tow (imagine that, an RL company, not just a squad), when some P/W servers pop up, we pwn the shit out of everything and everybody.

[Flufball]

Let them sit back with their snipers Hovis, more kills and fun for the rest of us.

[Hovis]

Let them sit back with their snipers Hovis, more kills and fun for the rest of us.

Not in ArmA Fluff old son. It's a war sim. Snipers are incredibly powerful. That's why I don't like having them around. It's easymode on a grand scale. That's as it should be, in terms of realism, but it makes for a poo game. :D

[Flufball]

Shush Hovis, let them be, all we have to do is create situations where Snipers are useless and the problem is solved.

I need to get out and buy this game I think, its been years since I played Flashpoint, the problem is I'm buggered for transport at the moment which is a shame because I've got nothing to drink either...

[Hovis]

Shush Hovis, let them be, all we have to do is create situations where Snipers are useless and the problem is solved.

I need to get out and buy this game I think, its been years since I played Flashpoint, the problem is I'm buggered for transport at the moment which is a shame because I've got nothing to drink either...

Can you not Amazon it or something?

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Had the game all day now, not as bad as people slagged it off to be.

Quite looking forward to getting some multiplayer in.

[Vasquez]

Not having played through all of the single player, and never having played mutliplayer OPF, what other weapons/vehicles/command abilities are there?

Will we have wire-guided missiles like Javelin? Can we call in artillery? Mortars? Those will all sort out snipers. Failing that, stay in vehicles when possible and use copious ammounts of smoke when not. When you run out of smoke, call in smoke from aircraft or artillery, or if in grassy terrain napalm or a similar incendiary agent will work. Of course, if you know where the sniper is, then just call it in on his head.

How do planes and helicopters work in multiplayer e.g. who gets them?

[Pegasus]

@ Hovie im happy to sit in the woods and wait for a kill or support people storming a building.

Probs be most happy in a plane cordinating where to bomb ect.

Ordering it now.

@ Vasq - Arty totally destroyed squad work and tacticle side of BF2....if a squad stuck and worked together to capture a control point they just got jibed by the enemy commander and his rain of death.

[Hovis]

Not having played through all of the single player, and never having played mutliplayer OPF, what other weapons/vehicles/command abilities are there?

Will we have wire-guided missiles like Javelin? Can we call in artillery? Mortars? Those will all sort out snipers. Failing that, stay in vehicles when possible and use copious ammounts of smoke when not. When you run out of smoke, call in smoke from aircraft or artillery, or if in grassy terrain napalm or a similar incendiary agent will work. Of course, if you know where the sniper is, then just call it in on his head.

How do planes and helicopters work in multiplayer e.g. who gets them?

Generally speaking a multiplayer game works like this:

Host picks a mission that somebody built. Playable roles are available on a first come first served basis, or the server can pick. What those roles are, what equipment is available and so on, is decided on in the mission. Maybe your mission is the players are all civilians armed with harsh language, or maybe you're black ops with an array of weapons available and you spawn in a tank factory. I'm getting to grips with mission building, but there's already dozens out there to pick from.

Not sure how persistent maps will play out but the potential is enormous.

As for sorting out snipers, any descent vehicle can fuck them up, as can a machinegun or assault rifle if it gets in range. Meanwhile just hide or run perpendicular to the bastards. :D

[Flufball]

Sadly not Hovis, for two reasons, my bank repeatadaly refuses me any sort of online debit/credit card for no apparant reason (I have a good credit rating etc etc) and because I'm damn well impaitent, I'd rather go down to Tesco/Game/Dodgy Phill's Discount Emporium* (about 5 mins away from where I live) and pick it up then wait three or four days for it to be delivered.

* = May not actualy be real.

[Hovis]

Run Fluf!

[DarthS]

I'm in, once I can get a copy. Been out of organized play for far too long.

[Pegasus]

fukin hell its hard

[Hovis]

Fuck. I've been playing it Co-Op multiplayer.

It is fantastic. I'd sniffed around some small servers before, but 20 player co-op is the unmitigated mutts nuts. Planetside fans, prepare for a religious experience.

Three screenies from the nights play.

Left to right.

First there I am being a good medic and supporting a comrade as we take a town in one map. This map was an absolute fucker. Took an hour. Brilliant fun though. Basically we spawned at a base a few klicks out, rolled in in a convoy of Styker APCs, then broke down the defence around the town and finally busted in street by street, alley by alley, corpse by corpse.

Second picture we're on main street, its hard to advance cos there are enemy jeeps and heavy jeeps around. Jeeps you can drop the crew with a few shots, heavy jeeps you can disable with grenades (fuck the wheels up) but need a LAW to destroy. Our APCs got bogged down and there were RPG snipers on the roofs.

Third is a different mission entirely, rolling in and around a small town using a convoy of Humvees. We attacked it like Indians circling a wagon train, hammering the defenders with the TOW launchers, M2 machineguns and auto-grenade launchers on the humvees. This shot is taken after my driver got killed stacking us into a wall to squish an RPG trooper. I bailed and tried to hook up with the rest of the squad. The weird green lighting is from a parachute flare, fired by our commander cos it's too light for nightvision and too dark to see.

Regarding persistent play, I dunno what the patch will do, but it's already possible to play a campaign over many hours, hell days. Some missions will take a long time, with several phases. Line up a long bunch of missions and game on. If we put the effort into making our own missions, then we are as Gods.

[Hovis]

fukin hell its hard

That's pretty much what I said when the convoy of Humvees I was riding with lit up that little town with heavy weapons by the light of parachute flares. Although I think my exact phrase was "I'm feeling rigid". Same thing though really.

Seriously guys, if you stick at it this game is the madnote. Just like Planetside the learning curve is like running full speed into a wall, and sometimes you'll not be able to find the right fight or you'll be stuck without transport on a shit map or you'll get TKed by a nonce, but it's worth it when it comes together.

By the way, ran into Irishdude as well while I was playing. Blast from the past there eh? :D

[leanmeankillingmachine]

fuck yeah, between playing ArmA multi player and watching cams.com ive got a viagra induced hard on thats gonna last for a week or two.

[Pegasus]

do you guys meet on normal RL TS then?

[leanmeankillingmachine]

do you guys meet on normal RL TS then?

that or the blue oyster gay bikers club.

[Pegasus]

blue oyster gay bikers club.

ahh...regular member?

[Vasquez]

Problem I'm having is my video settings. I want to run it on 'normal' quality level, as this looks great IMO but gives very slick FPS. However, I want it to run in 1280x1024 resolution. Everytime I change the quality down to 'normal' it changes my resolution to 1024x968, and everytime I switch my resolution back up to 1280x1024, it turns the quality up to 'high'.

Also, how do the missiles on the Cobra work? I can fire them, but not target them. How do I assign targets to my gunner etc?

I think I'm gonna have to compile a list of the errors this game has just to vent my frustration. Realistic my arse :( Fun though :D

Dunno when I'll be able to play as I'll need to, ahem, activate my extended trial copy and I'm a bit skint right now ;)

[Hovis]

Just have to do the tinkering on the advanced video settings. I found the big killer is the view distance. But I've stepped down to normal anyway despite having an uber PC cos I want stable FPS and lots of it.

[DarthS]

Orders been processed, should have it by the weekend.

You best be right about this bread. :cool:

[Hovis]

Trust me, it'll be huge.

[Flufball]

Bastards had sold out. :(

[The5th]

Once i get my head around the mission making side of things i'll wip up some missions but we'll need a host server to play on..

Mate with the Right leadership you can have great fun and games last hours.

Did say befor i was in a OFP clan and i made missions for them, we had 2 very good leaders and some ex forces guys playing as well.

Remember if your a rambo you won't like this game and you have to work as a team!!!

Oh and about the no sniping thing believe when you get hold of an SA80 the SUSAT rules and the Fire fights you can have as Inf rocks :D

[WiGgLr]

OK, I guess I'll buy this and run the server for you guys, even if I don't have the time to play it very much :P

[WiGgLr]

Woah, Hovis!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product//B000MMY71Y/202-3290231-3827852

(1st review)

[Hovis]

A mate of mine linked me to the game on Amazon and there were so many people writing shit reviews I felt compelled to have a word in edgewise. :cool:

[WiGgLr]

order confirmed.. should have it in a couple of days

[WiGgLr]

Quotes taken from the 1.02 dedicated server BETA installation document (can't find a later version as yet):


You need a Microsoft Windows 2000 or Windows XP computer to run an ArmA dedicated server. We recommend using 2 GHz machine, with 512Mb RAM and a 1Mbit upload network bandwidth.
Athlon 64 3000+, 1GB RAM. 100MB up/down data transfer, Windows Server 2003... Guess mine qualifies here
There are two possible ways to install the dedicated server. When you have installed the ArmA game, you can use the main executable (ArmA.exe) with the command line argument –server to start a dedicated server. While this is easy, it requires the ArmA DVD to be present in the drive during server operation and also original serial number.
OK, so first option is a no-go.. can't keep the DVD in the drive and also need the serial key myself.
If you want to run a server without the DVD and serial number, you have to use the standalone dedicated server executable. The latest version of this executable is always available from the official web site http://www.armedassault.com .To install the standalone server, you have to install the corresponding version of the game on any machine (you will need ArmA DVD for this), and add the ArmA_Server.exe file to the same directory as ArmA.exe. You can then copy the ArmA directory on to the server.

OMG, I have to upload an image of the DVD to the server. My home broadband only has 750KBit upload, so that will take FOREVER!

Is anyone able to sneakily host the image (english version of game) on a highspeed connection so that I can download it straight to my server?

[Hovis]

Would it help if somebody just chucked you a second copy of the game? I don't mind doing this, since I would only have spent the money on server rental anyway.

[WiGgLr]

No, the server is hosted in a rack in a server house in germany.

I can remote desktop to it, etc


I'd have to FTP an image of the game to the server... or remote desktop to the server and start a web or ftp download

[Hovis]

Bumskulls. Can't help then. :(

[irishdude]

Hello there lads
Yes I saw Hovis for a split second and then he was gone.
I saw the name and thought hey I know that name ,then he said hello and was gone .
But as far as AA goes its a great game with loads of potential.
Its just finding the time to get a few hours in with crappy work,
But if you lads are going to get into it just like with Planetside then i'm there.
TS server as before with Planetside would be cool then the game can reach the potential it has.

[Hovis]

Woot it's the Irishdude! Sorry I couldn't stick around, was newbing around with servers and lost track of you. Glad to see you're still about though. :D

[Pegasus]

installing full game now :D

[WiGgLr]

Please can someone who has the game already please tell me how big the DVD is?

Just wondering roughly how long my PC will be uploading it for, hehe :D

[Hovis]

2.69 gig on the disk.

[Pegasus]

2.69 gig on the disk.


translation...a long time wig.

[Derekian]

roughly 8-10 hours uploading with his speed, nothing major tbh :p

[irishdude]

I should be online tonight so keep an eye open for irishdude, at the mo i'm also playin around with settings and so on to try get them right,I was playing the demo for ages and now that i have the full game it means tweekin it a bit, to get it workin good ,but i do reckon for good multiplayer game we need a dedicated server and a load of fellas willin to try and die in the game.
BTW its nice to be remembered after all this time ahhh..:)

[WiGgLr]

Amazon should dispatch tomorrow morning, so I should have the game Friday or Saturday depending on whether the post office decide it needs me to pick it up from the depot or not.

Basically that means I should be able to start uploading on Saturday. With Saturday being a girlfriend day and one where we aren't meeting up until the evening time then that should work out nicely really. Dunno if I will be able to install the server on Sunday though, it depends when I take my girlfriend home.

[Ludicrouse]

Lo Irishdude m8.... o/


Just started on my first serious mission.

3 Blackhawks
3 Squads

BH's transport squad from Base to Target, everybody jumps out and pwns the enemy in the town.

Whilst this is going on ive added a bit of fluff.

There is a patrol passing the BH's as they prep for take off, a M1A1 is moving through the area also.

In midflight the BH's will pass over a small naval battle which consists of two allied Gunboats and ~3 nme Dingys. Also you may get a flyby from a pair of Harriers on their way to take out an enemy Armoured Column at your target.

When you reach target there is a Ural (Will add more traffic) going about its route through the town. Harriers may still be attacking the Tanks when you arrive. SU37 is on intercept for the Harries, just AA loadout so its not gonna rape you. Currently only one enemy infantry squad as a bit of a place holder until i have decided exactly whats needed.


Next step is to add some more fluff to the mission and im also thinking of either a pair of Little Birds or Cobras to give some CAS.

[Hovis]

I'm working on one at the moment too (having found out how to end it) :D

Basically it's a town, fortified against air and sea attack by US forces. OpFor players approach overland behind the defences. They are two special forces squads, one with a civvie Ural, one with civvie pickup trucks, coming in from different directions under cover of darkness. Objective is to wipe out the company of US forces in the town.

Eight guys against maybe sixty US troops with AA vehicles in support might seem unbalanced, but it's dark, all their defences are, initially at least, pointing out to sea, and it's a mission for Renegade Legion, so I figure the odds are at worst even.

Ideally I want to learn how to implement respawn though. It's a bitch having to sit a mission out, especially as I haven't fine tuned the win conditions, meaning it'll be a case of hunting the US troops down to the last man.

I'm hoping to use this as the starter mission for a campaign of Spec Ops missions before I move onto doing more major infantry and armour fights. They can be a bitch to balance though as one lucky or well driven tank can really bugger up a plan. :D

I'm not liking the fact that the US Soldiers have wrong equipment too. The riflemen use M4s when they should use M16s.

[WiGgLr]

I guess I really need to sort out the FTP server on my server.. heheh

[irishdude]

the end is easy
WE WIN
its all the other stuff before that thats a bitch to get right

[Hovis]

the end is easy
WE WIN
its all the other stuff before that thats a bitch to get right

Yeah but making the mission realise that we've won is something I'm not quite sorted with.

Ditto for respawning, so mistakes are just a bit costly at the mo. :D

[irishdude]

found this on the forums about respawning ,is it of any help ?

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=71;t=58179

[Pegasus]

just about got the hang of the choppers.

[Vasquez]

Are there some tutorials anywhere? I cannot use the mission builder or the hellfires :(

[Volw]

Just got a copy today :)

[Hovis]

Patch notes for 1.05

http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_Version_History#Version_1.05

[Pegasus]

Are there some tutorials anywhere? I cannot use the mission builder or the hellfires :(


yea, im missions menu

[Vasquez]

Nah, done all those. Dosn't help with the mission builder.

PS: I worked out how to do hellfires all by meself :D

Still can't make sense of the mission builder though :(

[Hovis]

Look for guides to OFP. The mission builder is the same apart from some extra bits that make it a little easier.

[WiGgLr]

I've been waiting all day for Amazon to email me a despatch note for the order I made yesterday, instead I arrive home tonight and find the order on my doormat.

Nice!

[Nyana]

My copy will be delivered tomorrow.

[Pegasus]

so come on....game sometime anyone?

everytime im on ts I never see anyone plating AA..same goes for SC.

[WiGgLr]

I'm making an ISO of the dvd at the moment, going to RAR it into segments then queue and upload that...

[T10]

Ordered it yesterday, should arrive before next week hopefully, and then we can get out there and get farmed!

[Daymare]

Omg irishdude! ftw! long time no see! :D

[Neraj]

Just ordered it, can't wait to play this! :p

[Volw]

Got it, but can't play .. gah :/

[Morpho]

Just ordered it, can't wait to play this! :p

^o^

[irishdude]

hello Daymare
how's it goin
I'm lookin forward to gettin a game goin,
I've already had a few good hours of gameplay, but it would be nice with a good bunch of RL dudes and ts

[Hovis]

Tomorrow afternoon and maybe evening if I'm not out hunting for flesh the game is afoot. See the other thread for details. I need map beta bitches basically, while this may not sound like everybody's idea of fun, to be honest the maps that come with the game aren't great. :D

[WiGgLr]

I misjudged my upload bandwidth slightly... it's only 512KBit up

Still, it's going pretty well:

16 segments complete, 4 almost done:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1508/wwwys8.png

9 segments in queue after the ones being uploaded:
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/663/68302483km6.png

Approx 2hrs 25mins for every 4 segements (400MB), so about 5hrs 30mins left

It'll be uploaded before I finish work today. I'll see if I can install it from work later on.

[Hovis]

That's teh win right there :D

[WiGgLr]

Oops, I just delayed the upload by 1hr45mins... stopped FTPing so I could test a tracert/ping from home and the FTP didn't resume when I restarted it.

I'm unsure as to the exact location of the server now, it could well be in England, just with a German IP because that is the who owns the company:

From work:
Tracing route to masterip.co.uk [87.106.30.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 25 ms 20 ms 22 ms redback-lb-bgp.newnet.co.uk [212.87.77.54]
3 19 ms 20 ms 21 ms th8.th.newnet.co.uk [81.3.81.8]
4 22 ms 21 ms 19 ms linx.gw-backbone-a.lon.schlund.net [195.66.224.98]
5 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms te-1-3.bb-c.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120.49]
6 37 ms 35 ms 37 ms te-1-1.gw-distp-a.bad.oneandone.net [212.227.116.220]
7 39 ms 36 ms 35 ms ae-1.gw-prtr-r231-a.bad.oneandone.net [195.20.247.50]
8 36 ms 36 ms 35 ms ns1.masterip.co.uk [87.106.30.6]

Trace complete.

From home:
Tracing route to masterip.co.uk [87.106.30.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 37 ms 25 ms 24 ms lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.123]
3 24 ms 26 ms 24 ms ge0-0-0-103.ptn-gw1.plus.net [84.92.3.17]
4 39 ms 24 ms 23 ms vl23.pte-gw2.plus.net [212.159.4.28]
5 26 ms 38 ms 24 ms linx.gw-backbone-a.lon.schlund.net [195.66.224.98]
6 53 ms 40 ms 39 ms te-1-3.bb-c.bap.rhr.de.oneandone.net [212.227.120.49]
7 42 ms 41 ms 40 ms te-1-1.gw-distp-a.bad.oneandone.net [212.227.116.220]
8 40 ms 56 ms 40 ms ae-1.gw-prtr-r231-a.bad.oneandone.net [195.20.247.50]
9 41 ms 40 ms 41 ms ns1.masterip.co.uk [87.106.30.6]

Trace complete.

Some nice figures there, would a UK -> Germany tracert get figures as nice?

[Gunhead]

I'd wager it's in UK. I get similar pings on finnish servers whereas to german ones it'd be around 60-80 and to UK in area of 70-120 (rough estimates off the top of me head considering CS:S servers).

edit:

just thought to phung it from work right now instead of guessing/remembering old CS servers.

Steady 58 ms. That's damn nice regardless where the box is physically :)

[Maurgrim]

Steady 12-14 ms :p

[Gunhead]

Germany it is then :p

[WiGgLr]

Steady 12-14 ms :p

bastard...


although that does show how much EU routing has improved over the past years

[Nyana]

So ehm.. what's that about?

[WiGgLr]

rar is uploaded, rebooting server after installing daemon tools and extracting the iso...

Going to start the install off, then go home

[WiGgLr]

ooops... going to have to kick it off when I get home


I forgot to bring the cd key in

[DarthS]

Well its friday and no sign so far. :(

[Hovis]

I think a lot of places sold out. In spite of bad reviews by retards the game has been a massive hit.

[WiGgLr]

Game is installed...

going to reboot the server to get rid of this awful daemon tools crap they add in nowadays

[DarthS]

It shipped, I have an email and everything. But it said 3-5 days for delivery, and we're on day 3.

[Flufball]

I think a lot of places sold out. In spite of bad reviews by retards the game has been a massive hit.

This is the case for me, its very annoying.

[WiGgLr]

some how I think the extra £2 for the amazon was worth it for the next day delivery


Edit: server being patched to 1.05 now

[Maurgrim]

What Hovis, Peg and me found out last night: those with the extended trial version can't play with retail dudes, not even over Hamachi. Extended Trials only work over Hamachi though. :p

[WiGgLr]

Server can be found on the list named:
"Renegade Legion ArmA Server - forums.renegade-legion.org"


@Hovis, the config file wasn't being read at all... now that it's read it reads the new bandwidth settings, so will be interesting to see how the 60 man map plays now.

[WiGgLr]

Oh, Hovis and I know the admin password.

[Hovis]

sweeeeeeet!

[Pegasus]

Finally Wig is in charge of something! Not the entertainment section but the ArmA server!

Thanks for putting it up wig :)

[Gunhead]

Yer thanks Wig, downloading patch.

[Rebel]

grr shut up about AAss.... until my copy arrives

Damn hovis and his infinate wisdom... of how to annoy me.

Play used to bew good, now i remember why my last order before AA was in jan 2004...

[Nyana]

Copy arrived today, gonna start some offline practice at once!

[Taylor]

If I take the cheapskates option of aquiring this game, will there be measures in place to stop me playing with legit owners of the retail version of the game?

And by measures in place I mean actual measures and not your baby crying that you don't want the tayman coming on and fucking up your shit.

Cheers ;)

[Vasquez]

^I don't think you can play online with the extended trial version, even over Hamachi if there's a legit user there. Anyone confirm that?

[Gunhead]

And by measures in place I mean actual measures and not your baby crying that you don't want the tayman coming on and fucking up your shit.

Would "cough up you cheapo or i'll kick your arse to next tuesday!" count as actual measures? But seriously, Bohemia is a small company making a brilliant game. They couldn't use Operation Flashpoint name with ArmA since Codemasters own the title and didn't want them to have as Bohemia doesn't want to CM to suck up all the revenue this time around. If you're buying one game this year buy ArmA, for once ignore that torrent and do the right thing :o

[Taylor]

Would "cough up you cheapo or i'll kick your arse to next tuesday!" count as actual measures? But seriously, Bohemia is a small company making a brilliant game. They couldn't use Operation Flashpoint name with ArmA since Codemasters own the title and didn't want them to have as Bohemia doesn't want to CM to suck up all the revenue this time around. If you're buying one game this year buy ArmA, for once ignore that torrent and do the right thing :o

I'll see what I can pony up to buy it, but I'm down £50 on some footie tickets and I'm still recovering from purchasing Vanguard (Excellent game btw).

I'm playing defiance UO atm, if anyone wants to join me :o

Although saying that, its less than £20 on play.com (http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/3256709/ArmA_Armed_Assault/Product.html) and I do already have a tenner! If I don't eat for a week or so I can probably pull it off.

[Megapolaris]

Haha nice one Taylor, or you can be EVEN smarter tan me, and just fucking download it. 52% (Y)

[Taylor]

Haha nice one Taylor, or you can be EVEN smarter tan me, and just fucking download it. 52% (Y)

Check my previous post, genius :p

[Pegasus]

Cheap versions cannot play on the same server as retail users.

[Megapolaris]

Cheap versions cannot play on the same server as retail users.

Oh damn! You sure theres no way around it?

[Flufball]

Right, gave in on waiting for my bank to clear me to order things online again and bought it from the store, had to pay the full bloody £30, so it better be worth it Bread!

[Vasquez]

Oh dear. Maybe it's best I don't play with other human beings. Here's what happened when I was putting the pedal to the metal in order to collect reinforcements. Into the US airbase I go, careering around the corner and...oh....shit....

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/522/collision1ns3.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=collision1ns3.jpg)

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6601/collision2yt9.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=collision2yt9.jpg)

[T10]

Into the US airbase I go, careering around the corner and...oh....shit....

Well, in all fairness, it is supposed to be a simulator :D

[Taylor]

Oh dear. Maybe it's best I don't play with other human beings. Here's what happened when I was putting the pedal to the metal in order to collect reinforcements. Into the US airbase I go, careering around the corner and...oh....shit....

We're you AIMING for those people?

Either way, it was nice of them to stand in a pretty little line for you.

Can anyone confirm if the piloting is anything similar to the easy BF system? If so, bagsy flying stuff.

Gun, set your face to: Motion sickness.

[Vasquez]

Personally I think choppers are pretty easy. Planes however...they don't seem to handle right.... hard, at any rate. I find the likes of Lock On: Modern Air Combat, which is a proper combat flight sim, much easier.

[Flufball]

Helis don't feel like BF2, at least not to me, I can fly BF2 helis just fine but put me into one of these things and I either go carrering off into an invisible tree (I swear thay put them in the sky) or I'm to high to land and have to spend five minutes landing.

[Pegasus]

no, its much harder then BF2...used to pwn up BF2 in a jet...I cant stay airborne and shoot stuff in the AH in ArmA, jets are another story.

[Taylor]

Guess it's gonna be a case of "master it offline so you don't fuck people off" then? :p

Either way I'll give it a go.

Vad will back me up in saying I was kick ASS at flying places in a wavery round-about kind of way, or hovering in a VERY questionable manner over flags etc. He only used to bail SECONDS before we hit the ground, usually, and then sometimes not at all!

Either blind faith (lol), or I "forgot" to tell him to bail and he went down with the ship.

[Volw]

...used to pwn up BF2 in a jet...

Don't even remind me of that ... once, you killed me 16 times in a row ... felt like having a huge red arrow above my head :(


Back to the topic, choppers are ok here, more realistic I'd guess. I used to pwn in them back in BF2, now it's a tad harder.

Thing that is pissing me off the most, is that glass is NOT armored, you can kill AH1 pilot with a pistol .. it gets really nasty with AH/MH - 6, I got sniped by some random infantry dozens of times.

[Vasquez]

After, what is it now, two years of near continuous BF2 play, my 'favourite victims' on my BF2 stats are still Endanger, Volwerine and Hovis :D

On a note of interest, my 'worst enemy' is.....myself.

[Flufball]

First Thoughts: Hovis is right about the sound, dear god some one has filled my grenades with sand.

[Hovis]

First Thoughts: Hovis is right about the sound, dear god some one has filled my grenades with sand.

Don't use the sound mod until you've patched the game.

[Flufball]

This is with bog standard M203 grenades, no mods. Sound Mod will go in if I can be bothered.

[Endangerment]

bugger off im your most fav target. only cause i was in the chopper and volw couldnt fly it well enough to avoid u :p

jets were massivly overpowered in bf2.

i'm considering getting this game, but im starting a new job in a few weeks, and will have to split my soon to be limited free time between normal games (like this) and eve - oh which im having a funny time in eve at the mo, gotta love going home and pwning all the locals :)

[Volw]

bugger off im your most fav target. only cause i was in the chopper and volw couldnt fly it well enough to avoid u :p

jets were massivly overpowered in bf2.

i'm considering getting this game, but im starting a new job in a few weeks, and will have to split my soon to be limited free time between normal games (like this) and eve - oh which im having a funny time in eve at the mo, gotta love going home and pwning all the locals :)

He crashed into us far more times :P

Consider? I need a gunner in my shiny AH-1! Remember those evil scores that got us banned in BF2 on a couple of occasions ?:D

Think about all those missions we could do ... damn, I'm getting wet again :p

[Pegasus]

correction to my previous post I CAN fly the AH-1.


Endangerment was a poonage gunner too if I remember.

Jets were only overpowered in bf2 if you became seriously good with them amassing kill streaks of 64...like me..... and beat those of Hince's puny 47....for example...newbs just fell out of the sky after getting 3 feet of the ground...or not clearing the runway at all.


@ Volv...at least you got the Purple Heart Medal!

[Flufball]

I gave up trying to kill you with the planes iirc correctly Peg, I got fed up of getting team-killed before I could even get in the damned plane. :(

[Endangerment]

i remeber gunning very well, was awesome fun, fireing the fly-by-wire missile as soon as the other guys got in the chopper and killing them as they took off.

Think i got 60 odd kills on a map, but volw got a higher score casue he got all the assits and a few scores of his own, the bugger.

i'll order it tomorrow to make u losers happy :)

need something decent to test out my new system neways :)

[Volw]

I'm even considering buying

this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GC-031-SK

AND this: :D

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GC-041-SK&groupid=702&catid=288&subcat=

[Endangerment]

i've got the first one, but hardly use it, u can buy it off me if ya like and i'll mail it, still have the box and everything i think.

[Flufball]

- Includes Roger Wilco Chat software - the ideal accompaniment for on-line multiplayer gaming

Hahahahaha.

[Endangerment]

Hahahahaha.

cant say i've installed that part, but it is wicked for flying, freespace 2 is simply awesome with it.

i cant fly in bf 2142 though, im just too poo, leave the flying to others, i just do the shooting :)

[Volw]

Theres a newer versin of it out, 100+GBP for it tho :/

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GC-043-SK&groupid=702&catid=288&subcat=

[Pegasus]

Theres a newer versin of it out, 100+GBP for it tho :/

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GC-043-SK&groupid=702&catid=288&subcat=


Not worth it Volw, you'll still crash :D

[Maurgrim]

So what's your favorite boomstick guys? Mine's the Dragunov, followed by G36 and M4+M203 ACOG.

[Hovis]

So what's your favorite boomstick guys? Mine's the Dragunov, followed by G36 and M4+M203 ACOG.

For me it's the silenced AKS, not sure of the name, it's long and full of numbers, but it's the standard for the Opfor saboteurs. Great gun for close quarters work, and you can drop people a good distance with it if you need to. It'll do full auto without going crazy too. Also silenced weapons are about the only ones that sound right. :cool:

I also really like the M16 and the basic AK74. I've scored good kills with both.

Scoped weapons like the M4 and the sniper rifles just leave me cold. It's too easy and it's really limiting. I like to be able to get at the enemy, close the range and fuck them up. Can't do that with a sniper rifle and even if you could you'd look a bender.

[Flufball]

Has anyone else encountered some strange bugs? I just had one on Delores Single-Player mission, after blowing the bridge I'm running to the boat but hearing a tank revving up directly behind me. I turned round nothing was there and then this great big tank came falling out of the sky. Seriously, it just landed infront of me...

[Maurgrim]

Only thing that happened to me was that a BMP somehow managed to flip itself up on its roof while standing still...

[Endangerment]

do we know if it runs under vista? and more importantly the 64 bit version of vista i will be installing later today?

looks like i can have it to me tomorrow which is pretty awesome

[Nyana]

Works fine under Vista, no problems here (32bit)

[Neraj]

My copy should arrive today, can't wait to play this online!

w00t! :eek:

[Vasquez]

I don't like the ARs (M4, M16 etc) with Aimpoints. Obscures the target too much, you can't see where your shots are going very easily. With iron sights I like them. I also like the ACOG on the M4/203 combo. Don't like the scope on the US sniper rifle (it's not even zeroed!), but the Dragunov is ok.

Favourite gun has got to be the M240 though. You can do anything with it and it has a great big belt. Unlike the real thing it dosn't get clogged full of shit and it dosn't way a ton so it's just perfect.

Don't like any of the gun sounds, but the silenced sounds are even worse than the regular ones. The MP5 is virtually silent which is ridiculous. Ski pto about 2:13 on the below video to hear what a silenced rifle really sounds like:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_zpahLM355k&mode=related&search=

Just remember it's about ten times as loud in real life.

[Hovis]

The MP5SD6 I think is the variant in the game and from what I've heard they are practically silent, because they are built from the ground up to be silent. Apparently the only thing you can hear from them is the action (i.e the sound of rounds being cycled and ejected). The silent Russian gun is a submachinegun, not sure how silent that is in real life. My guess is not very, so I don't know why they didn't use the Bizon. Best you can do with a full on rifle is whack a suppressor on it and switch to subsonic ammo, and that's still not going to be close to silent.

I agree about the iron sights though. Those big blobby aim dot things are so newb friendly it's sick, and like anything that is newb friendly you can't take it very far because it's imprecise. That's the military doctrine of the US military for you though. I want an SA-80 with iron sights damnit.

[Vasquez]

The MP5 SD series are pretty quiet, as supressed guns go, though they're actually very rudimentary. However, they're far from silent - and that's just the muzzle report, the sound of the action working only adds to it.

In truth, supressers are by no means 'silencers'. Although they do reduce the db level of the sound, mainly they change what the gun sounds like, not how loud it is. This change in sound is primarily to reduce the risk of hearing loss - supressed guns do not hurt the ears as much as 'naked' guns. Secondly, there is the bonus that in certain enviroments it can allow gunshots to go unnoticed. People will certainly hear the gunshot, but they may think it is something else other than a gunshot. Mainly however, supressors are a safety feature, not a 'stealth' aid.

The exception to all this is .22 rimfire caliber guns which you can actually make literally silent. But these have virtually no place in military or law enforcement. The only such instance of .22 rimfire I can think of was during Vietnam, some US 'tunnel rats' whose job it was to clear out tunnels were issues supressed .22 pistols. Ordinary guns, even supressed ones were so loud in the tunnels that they would deafen the shooter and even cause cave-ins.

When I shoot with a supressor on a fullbore weapon, I still wear hearing protection. Usually two sets in fact - plugs and muffs.

[T10]

My copy arrived today, so I should be able to play sometime in the near future.

[Hovis]

The MP5 SD series are pretty quiet, as supressed guns go, though they're actually very rudimentary. However, they're far from silent - and that's just the muzzle report, the sound of the action working only adds to it.

In truth, supressers are by no means 'silencers'. Although they do reduce the db level of the sound, mainly they change what the gun sounds like, not how loud it is. This change in sound is primarily to reduce the risk of hearing loss - supressed guns do not hurt the ears as much as 'naked' guns. Secondly, there is the bonus that in certain enviroments it can allow gunshots to go unnoticed. People will certainly hear the gunshot, but they may think it is something else other than a gunshot. Mainly however, supressors are a safety feature, not a 'stealth' aid.

The exception to all this is .22 rimfire caliber guns which you can actually make literally silent. But these have virtually no place in military or law enforcement. The only such instance of .22 rimfire I can think of was during Vietnam, some US 'tunnel rats' whose job it was to clear out tunnels were issues supressed .22 pistols. Ordinary guns, even supressed ones were so loud in the tunnels that they would deafen the shooter and even cause cave-ins.

When I shoot with a supressor on a fullbore weapon, I still wear hearing protection. Usually two sets in fact - plugs and muffs.

I read about the use of those silent .22 guns in Vietnam and one story was of a guy shooting a sentry with one and the sentry just thought he was being bitten by insects. Bearing in mind how big insects get in the jungle he'd probably be better off getting shot.