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Ludicrouse
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 07:17
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Revelations is the next huge, major update for EVE Online.

Currently on track for a Nov 28th deployment it promises a huge re-vamp for most of the game and its features.

Here are some of the major new features...


Factional Warfare
Updated Corp and Gang management
Fleet's now introduced
New Enviroments
Tier 2 Battlecruisers
Tier 3 Battleships
Hugely re-vamped Char creation



Lets go into a little more depth shall we?


Tier 2 Battlecruisers

The next stage of the Battlecruiser line is to be introduced with Revelations. Each race will receive a single new ship designed to compliment the existing flotilla. Here are more specifics.



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Caldari Drake Class

The Drake is a large Missile and ECM boat. It is equipped with 3 Turret and 7 Missile Launcer slots to give it tremendous Missile Alpha Strike capability, in the right hands this could obliterate any opponent with a full salvo of Cruise Missiles or Anti-Ship Torpedos. Even having the lowest powergrid of all the T2 Battlecruisers it is ideal for use in a ECM role, with plenty of slots for Webifiers and Warp Scramblers. The Drake is primarily designed to Sheild Tank with a total of 6563 HP of Sheilding as standard, this baby can take a fair amount of punishment before a tactical withdrawl is required.

With its high Missile Alpha and its amazing ECM potential this baby could be PvP'ers dream, most ships will not be able to stand up to the bombardment this vessel can deliver.



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Gallante Myrmidon Class

Designed to be able to bulldoze its way through its enemies, the Myrmidon is a Tank of amazing proportions, it has the ability to soak up anything you can throw at it. Only having 5 Turret slots and no Missile slots gives this vessel the lowest damage potential of any of the new ships it is offset by the rather large Drone Bay for its size, capable of storing twice the drones of the T1 Battlecruiser sister ship the "Brutix" it can release a swarm of small unmanned vessels to buzz the enemy and slowly peck away at their ship until it is nothing but a hulk in space.

The Myrmidon is quite likely going to be useless in PvP unless you fit Blasters and a MWD to get really close for the sucker punch. Its low damage potential means that outside of Solo play this vessel will be largely overlooked by the Alliance players.


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Amarrian Harbinger Class

Following Amarr military doctrine the Harbinger is a dedicated Laser strike boat capable of cutting swathes through any opponents hull and shields. Whilst the Harbinger has very low shield strength it more than makes up for it with the usual strong armour that is now standard on Amarr ships, making this vessel able to resist huge amounts of damage as soon as its shields have failed.

Unfortunatley with a distinct lack of both a high number of Medium Slots and a total lack of Missile slots the Harbinger looks to be more use in PvE than in PvP, when you take into account that your Webbys and Scrams are going to be using up the same space as your Armour Repairers and Cap rechargers you can see that this vessel is either going to be very specified in PvP or totally overlooked in favour of the more flexible Amarr ships of the line.


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Mittar Hurricane Class

The force with which this ship hits is more than sufficient to leave a trail of shattered enemies, floating around like so much lifeless debris. An adaptable vessel, it has enough turret hardpoints for a full-scale assault while remaining versatile enough to allow for plenty of missile fire, and has both suffucuent speed to outrun its enemies and sufficient capacitor charge to outlast them.

This ship is the best of the T2 Battlecruisers. It has tremendous damage potential even with its smaller amount of medium slots. If this baby gets into trouble it has the option of breaking off and doing a runner, which tbh most of the other BS's will have trouble with. This is a beautiful all round ship. Work of art.



Tier 3 Battleships

The latest in the powerful Battleship class, most players ultimate goal is to fly a ship of this class, powerful, large, strong and devastating they are a force unto themselves in the universe of EVE.


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Gallante Hyperion Class

Recognizing the necessity for a blaster platform to round out their high-end arsenal, the Federation Navy bought in top-level talent to work on the Hyperion. Using the existing Megathron hull the result was on the most lethal and versatile gunboats ever to take to the void.

With almost twice the shield and armour strength of the current Megathron this vessel is a monster with 8 Turret Hardpoints and 1 Missle point this beast has the ability to deal out tremendous damage and stay in the fight longer than most. A real "Blasterboat" this baby may just turn around the PvP fortunes of the higher end Gallante vessels.


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Caldari Rokh Class

Having long suffered the lack of an adequate Hybrid Turret platform, the Caldari State's pilots found themselves rejoicing as the Rokh's design specs were released. A fleet vessel if ever there was one, this far reaching and durable beast is expected to see a great deal of service on battlefields near and far.

Going totally against the usual Caldari starship design standards, the Rokh offers the Caldari a dedicated platform for long range turret fire. Capable of fitting 8 turrets or replacing 4 with Missile Launchers it is a powerful ship which could be devastating in PvP, the only worry is that some Caldari pilots will not have the experience and skills to use the Hybrid turrets with this vessel, meaning possible lenghty delays on deployment of these beasts.



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Amarrian Abaddon Class

The Abaddon class is a celestial tool of destruction. It is designed to enter combat from long range, targeting enemies from the outset and firing salvo upon salvo at them, and to remain intact on the field until every heretic in sight has been torn to shreds.

Following the design and religious doctrine of the Amarr this vessel emphasises their ego, large, powerful and unyielding it can almost tear a hole in the fabric of space with its devastating long range tactical fire. This is going to be a great ship for the Sniping PvP'er.



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Mittar Maelstrom Class

With the Maelstrom, versatility is the name of the game. Its defensive capabilities make it ideally suited for small raid groups or solo work, while its 8 turret hardpoints present opportunities for untold carnage on the fleet battlefield.

Resembling some kind of sail ship with the opaque dorsal and ventral fins this vessel makes itself look more intimidating on the field. Capable of mounting 8 Turrets and 3 Launchers this baby can pack a punch, whilst not an out and out offensive ship, this vessel would be highly suited to defense of a Station or System from aggressive raiding forces.


Here is a ship size comparison: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0610/size_comparison.jpg


New Character Creation

With Revelations comes the improved creation process to lower the steep learning curve EVE is renowned for.

When you create your char the options will be better described and you can see exactly whats skills you will be getting for your choices. Instead of the current maximum of 50,000 skillpoints you gain after you have created your avatar, in Revelations you can creat chars with up to 800,000 skill points (That includes several skills at level 5).

See these screenshots for a more graphic example.
Fighter: http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7785/soldierbk7.jpg
Miner: http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7705/prospectorgj3.jpg
Trader: http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2872/entrepreneurzl7.jpg



"Rig's" aka Ship Upgrades

Rigs are a kind of implant for your ship, able to increase resistance to various damage types and increasing ship speed or ship agility.

See this screenshot for a selection of them.
http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0610/rigs1.jpg


High Res Screenies and Video's


http://www.mashie.org/eve/drake01.png
http://www.mashie.org/eve/drake02.png
http://www.mashie.org/eve/nanodrake.png
http://www.mashie.org/eve/harbinger01.png
http://www.mashie.org/eve/harbinger02.png
http://www.mashie.org/eve/myrimidon01.png
http://www.mashie.org/eve/maelstorm01.png


Here is a video of someone on the Test Server buying a Abaddon class Battleship and giving a very brief spin around to show of its wonderful modelling and textures.
http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Muffin/Abaddon.wmv


This is a video showing off the new map system and the new wrecks that are left behind by destroyed ships and are part of the new Rig's system. If you have never played EVE before, ignore the map parts and just watch the beutiful combat and its effects. also please note, if it seems laggy its down to fraps, absolute pain to get working with EVE.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Darksaber/Drake_-_Map_-_Wrecks.avi



Whats next for EVE Online?


Well whilst i havnt shown you everything to come in Revelations (there isnt enough space to list it all) there is still more planned.

On the release of Windows Vista, EVE will be undergoing a DirectX 10 make-over to make it even prettier than it already is, when thats done im sure there will be screenies pretty quickly showing off its beauty.



Thanks for taking the time to read this amazingly long update and advert for EVE. If you wish to try it, give me or Endangerment a nudge and we should be able to get you a buddy key for a 14 day trial.

Volw
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 08:16
move links are not working! nub! :P <<---- I'm a nub, they are working, leftclick instead of rightclick on them :)

besides, good topic :D

Endangerment
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 11:31
this is stage 1 of 3 of thier updates, stage 2 due in late jan and 3 in march, 3 will have full direct 10 support and allow factional warefare, the players then control the game and can change security status of systems and how well npc corps do in their wars

its what an mmo needs, like wow, imagine if the horde attacked the allaince and took a huge city off them, in eve u can (will be able to)

leanmeankillingmachine
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:00
Doesnt change the fact the game sucks.

Ludicrouse
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:36
Your just bitter you deleted your toon and then found out you could have sold it for £1000 :p

leanmeankillingmachine
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:39
Your just bitter you deleted your toon and then found out you could have sold it for £1000 :p

Fuck you ginger bollocks, I did manage to trade my ISK in for WoW gold so Im happy.

Once again, fuck you ginger bollocks.

Ludicrouse
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:41
Now thats MUCH better lean...

Hovis
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:47
Yeah deleting an EVE toon is retarded.

Meanwhile I have an up and running EVE account and I even play a bit. But I dunno how impressed I am to see more ships I'll never ever get to fly.

Endangerment
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:49
get in RL - Vets channel hovis

leanmeankillingmachine
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:51
Bah, listening to Ludi is akin to listening to country and western music - People sometimes do it but it just makes them look stupid.

Ludicrouse
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:52
But I dunno how impressed I am to see more ships I'll never ever get to fly.


Your having a fucking GIRAFFE arnt ya?

I can fly the T3 Battleships as soon as they are released.... prolly the T2 BC's too... will have to check.


Edit: Yepp, i can fly the Myrmidon as soon as its out.

Ludicrouse
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:55
Bah, listening to Ludi is akin to listening to country and western music - People sometimes do it but it just makes them look stupid.

Nothing like some Johnny Cash m8...

Hovis
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 14:58
Your having a fucking GIRAFFE arnt ya?

I can fly the T3 Battleships as soon as they are released.... prolly the T2 BC's too... will have to check.


Edit: Yepp, i can fly the Myrmidon as soon as its out.

I can't. Don't want to either. I'm a tackler, it's all I do. Fear the interceptors bitch.

Ludicrouse
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 18:13
on a funnier note Lean.... Bags just joined up on a mish with me and Para... he used a Smart Bomb a little too close to us and promptly had CONCORD drop into the area and pwn his Scorp in about 2 secs flat....

D'OH!

leanmeankillingmachine
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 23:55
that dirtbag still a billionaire ?

Endangerment
Wednesday, 15th November 2006, 18:25
hovis matey decent ceptor pilots always have a place in eve, sometimes its fun to be damage dealer in my kickass tempest, but often i love jumping in the ceptor and orbiting the big ass damage dealers with my tracking disruptor on annoying them.

destroyer a fully t2 fitted bs with 3 firgs = priceless

Volw
Wednesday, 15th November 2006, 18:28
btw. is the release date of the patch officaily confirmed or it's just a rumor ?

Bagpuss
Wednesday, 15th November 2006, 18:57
as of checking in on the ole warehouses,markers, and spare cash ...i'm still about 2Billion ISK up :)

Endangerment
Wednesday, 15th November 2006, 22:54
send me some of that baby! or i'll war dec u lol

leanmeankillingmachine
Thursday, 16th November 2006, 00:13
as of checking in on the ole warehouses,markers, and spare cash ...i'm still about 2Billion ISK up :)

****, nuff said

Adelheit
Thursday, 21st December 2006, 14:44
With WoW slowly losing its appeal i decited to upgrade my trial account into a proper one. Very impressed by the game so far.

Any of you guys still playing EVE?

WiGgLr
Thursday, 21st December 2006, 14:46
there is a Renegade Legion corp if that's what you mean...

talk to them in the EVE channel on TS some time

Ludicrouse
Thursday, 21st December 2006, 14:49
there is a Renegade Legion corp if that's what you mean...

talk to them in the EVE channel on TS some time

What Wig said, when your ingame mail either Ludi or Ludicrouse and ill sort you out m8

Adelheit
Thursday, 21st December 2006, 14:57
Oh, there still is? I was looking or RL at http://stfu.griefwatch.net but didnt find anything. Dont be too surprised when "Adhel Hight" hails you :cool:

Seems like it was a time to start playing when "Revelations" was released, currently making a good profit selling components. Still a noob at EvE tho :D

Ludicrouse
Thursday, 21st December 2006, 15:03
Not on the killboards yet... altho we may if there is time.

Hovis
Thursday, 21st December 2006, 18:47
I'm back in EVE but I'm fucked off with it at the mo as my main ship got wasted while I was answering the door. I'm skint, but I'm in a good corp which is in an alliance which holds a chunk of 0.0 space.

Endangerment
Thursday, 21st December 2006, 21:47
tell me your not still with venturecorp?

Hovis
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 09:30
tell me your not still with venturecorp?

Nah. In a corp called Solar Flare Heavy Industries now. Part of the PURE alliance.

Volw
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 09:35
Whats you in-game nick Hovis?

Daymare
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 10:01
just saw there is a free 14 day trial available.. anyway, how much gridning is needed to play this game pvp wise? I cba to grind, but if I don't have to im all for trying this out. Back in beta there was really no pvp going on, just shitty trading for nabs.

Derekian
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 10:08
EVE depends on time that your char exists and not so much on time you spend on it.

Basically to train abilities you have to wait X hours

for example: To use a battleship you had to get Frigates to lvl4, Cruiser to lvl4 and then Spaceship command to lvl4 (iirc) and then you could train the Battleship skill. To go from 3 to 4 in Cruiser though it's like 5 days (that's the skill u need to drive the ship, u also need skills to mount weapons/electronics etc on it :D)

The good thing is that you can just go online, change skill and then go offline again, it'll still train your skill :D

So if u just jump in-game yeah you can go PvP but it'll be with a crappy frigate that can't really do much

Daymare
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 10:11
EVE depends on time that your char exists and not so much on time you spend on it.

Basically to train abilities you have to wait X hours

for example: To use a battleship you had to get Frigates to lvl4, Cruiser to lvl4 and then Spaceship command to lvl4 (iirc) and then you could train the Battleship skill. To go from 3 to 4 in Cruiser though it's like 5 days (that's the skill u need to drive the ship, u also need skills to mount weapons/electronics etc on it :D)

The good thing is that you can just go online, change skill and then go offline again, it'll still train your skill :D

So if u just jump in-game yeah you can go PvP but it'll be with a crappy frigate that can't really do much

so I can't pwn with low lvl ships? well fuck that then :(

Hovis
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 10:34
People say that you can't pwn with low ships, but the truth is you can't pwn without them. You have to remember PvP in EVE is high stakes, dog eat dog stuff. This isn't like WoW where you die, respawn, and everything is okay. If you lose a ship that's a big loss, and if you're podded as well that's even more of a loss. People don't fight fair.

So where do low ships fit into all this?

Simple. If you want to kill battleships and other big ships you need a team to do it, you need a ship to do the damage and you need ships to stop the target getting away.

Now obviously a low level frigate can't kill a battleship, and anybody who thinks it should is a mongtard. But give that frigate a couple of stasis webbers and a warp scrambler and it can at least prevent a battleship from escaping, especially as battleships rarely have weapons for killing frigates.

With low level frigates the best approach is either to work as a swarm, which is a laugh and that will, if you can take the losses, get you kills. Or attach yourself to a combat group as a tackler to stop targets escaping.

EVE is a hugely complicated game, for it's faults it's still one of my favourite MMOs because it doesn't treat you like a retarded 12 year old.

Best advice I can give is if you are starting as a new character looking to go PvP is you should search the EVE forums for what you should be training. If you specialise in one factions ships and guns with no sidetracks into industry or other factions you really won't need to wait long to be combat effective in a cruiser.

My character has only six million skill points, but because I'm almost totally specialised in Gallente ships and weapons I don't fear anybody in PvP (although mostly because I fly in a squadron in an interceptor and if things go bad I can be out of there in two seconds :D )

Derekian
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 10:42
when i was playing eve actively I was in a small pirate corp :D

We usually had gangs for 5-10 people everyone with frigates & interceptors and we used to kill battleships easily :p Basically we had almost everyone with a web and a scrambler and some of the frigates had a sensor dampener, now if i remember correctly they changed these completely but what htey used to do was that they reduced your max targetting range and your locking time, this way battleships needed around 150 seconds to lock on a frigate

Was the best times i've had in eve tbh but I don't think u can still do that stuff, everyone's running around with tier2 battleships and cruisers now keke

Hovis
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 11:07
when i was playing eve actively I was in a small pirate corp :D

We usually had gangs for 5-10 people everyone with frigates & interceptors and we used to kill battleships easily :p Basically we had almost everyone with a web and a scrambler and some of the frigates had a sensor dampener, now if i remember correctly they changed these completely but what htey used to do was that they reduced your max targetting range and your locking time, this way battleships needed around 150 seconds to lock on a frigate

Was the best times i've had in eve tbh but I don't think u can still do that stuff, everyone's running around with tier2 battleships and cruisers now keke

You can still do that. People don't take ultra-expensive ships into 0.0 unless they control the space completely. Most of the combat I've done has been with cruisers and interceptors camping gates (zzzzzzzz) and chasing folks down. I've not run into anything bigger than a T1 Battleship and if anything really shiny turns up it helps to be in a corp that's hungry for killmails. I can get backup in seconds on a properly impressive target.

Kampf
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 12:31
i do not like eveonline, but i know that skullsmasher plays it, and he uses my fucking doug so it can't be such a bad game.
but to make it a good game they have to make the doug flying arround in the space of the dougsysthem.

Endangerment
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 13:43
we had a rolling frig gang last night, bout 15 of us, and with our combined setups we weren't far from untouchable.

2 had tracking disruptors so no gun based ships could hit.

2 had caldari jammers so missile ships couldn't lock

6 had webs and scrams so nobody could escape

everybody had damage so the targets died quick.

we made one of the new battlecruiser eject cause he couldn't do anything, so we podded him and stole his ship.

2 bs's went down under our assault.

we had no losses.

frigs ar emore than viable in eve even with low sp's, what u need is organisation and a combined fleet setup right.

Skullsmasher
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 17:26
Hovis what's ur char name m8?
Breadbox isnt it? :P

Adelheit, tried to catcha in game but no luck so far

Hovis
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 21:17
My ingame name is Guinefort. Send money. :D

The frigate swarm is a nice tactic though I'd feel bad if you guys ever hit a PURE gate camping team. It's sick. We generally have warp bubbles set up so there's no escape, loads of drones of various types in the air, and if we're defending our home system there's sometimes a carrier in the group.

I miss frigate swarms in my current role, which is literally as an interceptor. If anybody non-alliance appears in our space we lock them down with scanners, block the gates, then interceptors like me hunt the infidel down, web and scramble him so he can't get away and either light them up ourselves or call for a heavier ship to do the killing. My Taranis can reach almost any point in a system within only a couple of seconds, it's genius. The ship packs three T2 ion blasters loaded with T2 ammo, optimised for a range of about a kilometre, but since the ship will comfortably do over 1000m/s there's no worries about getting in nice and close. At that range with that firepower a little ship suddenly feels a lot bigger. Sort of like sharing a taxi ride with a polar bear.

That said I've lost my main ship, killed because I had to help the engineer from the gas company check the water heater in my room. My beautiful Rat-hunting and cash generating Brutix, fresh from an expensive refit, got lit up like a christmas tree. This means I'm broke and will have to whore myself out as a hauler with my Iteron V for a while. Ghey.

My worry for you gringos doing the frigate swarm though, especially if new is, how do you make enough money to run PvP ops? Surely the ships are at least a million ISK a pop and there's no money at all in PvP in my experience, unless you've caught some pussy who'll pay you to let him live.

Skullsmasher
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 22:22
My ingame name is Guinefort. Send money. :D .

Done! :P

Hovis
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 22:42
Done! :P

Cheers matey, and a merry Christmas to all. Anybody who contributes the cost of the next ship I get for PvE (since that's what I need) will have the honour of it being named after them (just a clue, I'm trying to get a Myrmidon, which is the T2 Gallente Battlecruiser). :D

Skullsmasher
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 22:51
hmm might toss in another 10 isk then :D

Hovis
Friday, 22nd December 2006, 22:57
hmm might toss in another 10 isk then :D

Share the wealth I'm flying around in an egg. :(

Endangerment
Sunday, 24th December 2006, 16:29
I'd feel bad if you guys ever hit a PURE gate camping team. It's sick. We generally have warp bubbles set up so there's no escape, loads of drones of various types in the air, and if we're defending our home system there's sometimes a carrier in the group.



where they based, souds like we could make sum cash off u :)

carriers are great because w ejust lure their drones away and they cost 25m a pop and frigs take em down so easy.

if its a bubble camp i just burn back to gate at 4km/s, by time u lock me i already have enough speed to hit gate and too much trnasversal for a snipe to hit me.

gate camps are so boring, all it take is one covert to get a look at u and in 20 mins there is a fleet on its way setup just to kill u. roaming gangs with probes is best, they never expect to be probed from behind :)