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Reno
Friday, 10th November 2006, 01:09
a couple of tanks say they want to be mt the next week they want to do dps. I want to know who is purely going for tanking and who is going to dps because if a warrior says he wants to tank and get all wrath first and im passing on it for the benefit of progressing, and then he starts to bid on dps items aswell. If they want both wrath and dps gear thats ok but be honest about it and dont say that your going to be mt so others pass on the items.

leanmeankillingmachine
Friday, 10th November 2006, 01:20
Im still prot specced and would love to tank, due to my lack of raiding experience its just not wise to have me as a MT at the minute unless its something pretty straightforward. Personally I think it doesnt matter what a warrior wants to be, he should be equipped to be able to do both jobs in my opinion and if that means he wants to bid on DPS and tank items then so be it.

At the end of the day its your DKP, if you think you need an item thats dropped then its your right to bid on it.

Dojun
Friday, 10th November 2006, 03:43
Helps more to have 2 very well geared tanks then a lot of decent geared imo.

GuardianAnge1
Friday, 10th November 2006, 07:39
Helps more to have 2 very well geared tanks then a lot of decent geared imo.

agree. people should choose. lots of tanking drops will help the dps warriors get some items too, but there should be 2/3 well geared out prot specced tanks that can be relied on.

Aeroth
Saturday, 11th November 2006, 21:38
Setting up a Tank rule for 2-3 guys that's been doing their service for the legion and has earn the right wud benefit on the long run. Officers can prioritze certain loot to go to tanks, that doesn't go by dkp. In the end, it's the tank that's gonna take the beating and if he's doing it right, the less worry u're gonna get.

Peete
Saturday, 11th November 2006, 21:41
Yeah bring back MT rule, and bring back Grom while we are at it ! :eek:

Nikodemus
Saturday, 11th November 2006, 22:18
I'm a tank. I'll happily spend DKP on tanking gear. Don't think I really want any more DPS items, but if I see an upgrade going for a silly low amount of points, I might kick in.

Xed
Sunday, 12th November 2006, 00:01
Yeah bring back MT rule, and bring back Grom while we are at it ! :eek:

Great times, Great times :D

Chamuel
Monday, 13th November 2006, 02:28
I was going all out prot and only taking tank items (maybe a shitty dps item here and there that no1 realy wanted). But lately tank items have been flying around the entire raid, everyone is bidding on everything. This griefing strat is silly because we cant bid on cross-class items this way. Not to mention that we will have 10 semi good geared tanks in a while and none uber geared ones. This way we'll be forced to farm BWL over and over till we get 10 uber geared tanks before we can actualy kill something in Naxx or AQ40.

If we get 3 or 4 warriors that were given priority on tanking items, I would gladly spent all my time and effort in farming pots/buffs/enchants etc for tanking. The tanks for that should be: Dehenet, Gatzu, Minoras and Putrid imo. They've always shown that they are willing to tank and put some effort in it. Not log in 5 minutes before invite time and ask: "What are we doing tonight?" or ''Do I need to farm something?"

Anyway, I dont think we'll see a rule like this in RL anytime soon, which is sad realy.

Xed
Monday, 13th November 2006, 03:47
I was going all out prot and only taking tank items (maybe a shitty dps item here and there that no1 realy wanted). But lately tank items have been flying around the entire raid, everyone is bidding on everything. This griefing strat is silly because we cant bid on cross-class items this way. Not to mention that we will have 10 semi good geared tanks in a while and none uber geared ones. This way we'll be forced to farm BWL over and over till we get 10 uber geared tanks before we can actualy kill something in Naxx or AQ40.

If we get 3 or 4 warriors that were given priority on tanking items, I would gladly spent all my time and effort in farming pots/buffs/enchants etc for tanking. The tanks for that should be: Dehenet, Gatzu, Minoras and Putrid imo. They've always shown that they are willing to tank and put some effort in it. Not log in 5 minutes before invite time and ask: "What are we doing tonight?" or ''Do I need to farm something?"

Anyway, I dont think we'll see a rule like this in RL anytime soon, which is sad realy.

QFT, I can't help but agreeing to this.

Nikodemus
Monday, 13th November 2006, 04:37
Those who want to tank will be willing to spend more points on tanking gear, those who want to DPS won't be bidding as high since they need to save points for DPS plate and weapons (kind of been there, ahem). I honestly think it should sort itself.

Reno
Monday, 13th November 2006, 07:27
If we get 3 or 4 warriors that were given priority on tanking items, I would gladly spent all my time and effort in farming pots/buffs/enchants etc for tanking. The tanks for that should be: Dehenet, Gatzu, Minoras and Putrid imo. They've always shown that they are willing to tank and put some effort in it. Not log in 5 minutes before invite time and ask: "What are we doing tonight?" or ''Do I need to farm something?"

Anyway, I dont think we'll see a rule like this in RL anytime soon, which is sad realy.


i dont know to who your refering to but i've allways didnt have a problem when they asked if i wanted to tank. and i allways had my pots sorted (im not an alchemist), and i do check the raid calendar. After a while other warriors said they wanted to be mt, and because they had alot better gear then me i went for dmg gear. And because im offtanking alot i bid on bracers of wrath because no member bid on it except minoras i bid on the belt because i wanted to replace my blue belt. You never know how many tanks show up nowadays and putrid you do know that ive allways passed on an item where tanks where bidding for. As niko said im saving my dkp for the items i really want and the only 2 tanking items i really want to replace is my chest and my weapon. but if the wrath chest would drop i would pass and go for might untill the mt's have it.

It would be ok if mt's got the tanking items first if they didnt bid on dps gear
People need to learn to make a choice.

leanmeankillingmachine
Monday, 13th November 2006, 14:22
Im against these type of rules completely, its a slippery slope if you ask me, if you start bringing in rules such as priority bidding for tanks only, then its only fair that you bring in a rule for priority bidding for DPS only, pretty soon there are people who wont be able to bid on any item at all if they are lower down on the pecking order for drops. Players earn their DKP and its up to them how they want to spend it, obviously common sense should prevail and players question if they really need an item or not, as Hincey pointed out in his post about bidding on epics simply because theyre purple. With regards to bidding, if the 3 priority tanks bid on an item then chances are they will get an item alot cheaper than when it comes to bidding on items open to all warriors, very unfair.

The warriors in RL have always had a good understanding with each other and plenty of times in the past weve not bid on items so that our MT's can get items they need for the benefit of the guild, it should stay this way. Keep these type of conversations and posts to RLwarrior please.

Omniel
Monday, 13th November 2006, 16:20
well tanks are a different matter; they can make or break guilds.
Thats why i think, like i stated in the past, that higher perhaps more hardcore standards should apply to warriors. Albeit it to recruiting them/gearing them/or prepping them for a raid.

Like cham stated, 3-4 good tank-warriors are better then 10 warriors who all have a share of tanking-gear. And there are just ppl out there who dont understand this.
And its more then obvious that those tank-warriors should not bid on the DPS gear. The way i see it is that tank-warriors should gain priority on tank-gear and only get the dkp-gear that is inferior or most dps-warriors have it and vica versa.
And to be honest our DPS-warriors kinda suck.. i dont know what causes this because some sure got the gear for it, but they dont stand out.. DPS-warriors are very capable of rocking the damage-meters and our damage-meters have never been rocked by you guy's before.

The warriors in RL have always had a good understanding with each other and plenty of times in the past weve not bid on items so that our MT's can get items they need for the benefit of the guild, it should stay this way. Keep these type of conversations and posts to RLwarrior please.

the fact that this topic even excists proves that thats not really the case.

Reno
Monday, 13th November 2006, 16:31
Well i posted in the warrior forum because i wanted to discuss this with the warriors not to everyone in the guild or outside the guild. (no offence);)

but anyways i hope the warriors do think about what they want to be and bid on the items that they actually want being tank or dps so we dont have alot of griefing no rules are needed actually just common sense.:cool:

Chamuel
Monday, 13th November 2006, 19:55
And because im offtanking alot i bid on bracers of wrath because no member bid on it except minoras i bid on the belt because i wanted to replace my blue belt.

I would've bid on it, if I didnt had to spend all my dkp on might chestpiece in MC the other day. And you say you want to replace certain items like your chestpiece and belt? But you also say that you'll pass all items to real tanks? Thats going two different ways right there. But anyway, I was a bit dissapointed on last BWL run scince I couldnt bid on any item, even though we had 5-6 warrior drops. So I gained might chestpiece and missed, wrath bracers, wrath belt and styleens impending scarab all because of that.

This might seem a bit selfish, but I realy dont see any reason to go for tank gear anymore. At least not spend high amounts of dkp on it. Thats the reason why I ditched my prot spec. And wont be returning to it untill we have the main tanks sorted out.

Saltydog
Tuesday, 14th November 2006, 09:24
I'd say try to get gear for your current spec and IF an item that you could use in another spec is about to get dissed try getting it then.

I know I'm not a warrior but my leather wearing druid does have some of the same issues with rogues and sometimes even huntArs.

Im fully resto so I aim for resto gear. Malfurion Bulwark drops in BWL the other night and I wait to see if someone wants it, then I bid on it when noone did.

Shadow flame staff dropped (damage and healing with 40 intel) noone bidded so I tried, then a warlock bids and I pass straight away since the damage is better on him/her.