Lvl 70 specs from the current talent trees.

[ArchOni]

This is my Fury build which i'll propably hoping to have TF in OH and a nice hard hitting sword in MH :D

Warrior
Minimum level required: 70
Number of talent points required: 61

Arms Talents - 25 points

# Deflection - rank 5/5
# Improved Charge - rank 2/2
# Iron Will - rank 5/5
# Improved Overpower - rank 2/2
# Anger Management - rank 1/1
# Deep Wounds - rank 3/3
# Impale - rank 2/2
# Sword Specialization - rank 5/5

Fury Talents - 31 points

# Cruelty - rank 5/5
# Unbridled Wrath - rank 5/5
# Improved Battle Shout - rank 5/5
# Dual Wield Specialization - rank 4/5
# Enrage - rank 5/5
# Death Wish - rank 1/1
# Flurry - rank 5/5
# Bloodthirst - rank 1/1

Protection Talents - 5 points

# Tactical Mastery - rank 5/5

Would like comments on it.

[Derekian]

PvE dps spec

Arms Talents - 13 points


#Improved Heroic Strike - rank 3/3
#Deflection - rank 5/5
#Improved Charge - rank 2/2
#Improved Overpower - rank 2/2
#Anger Management - rank 1/1


Fury Talents - 43 points

#Cruelty - rank 5/5
#Unbridled Wrath - rank 5/5
#Piercing Howl - rank 1/1
#Improved Battle Shout - rank 5/5
#Dual Wield Specialization - rank 5/5
#Improved Execute - rank 2/2
#Enrage - rank 5/5
#Death Wish - rank 1/1
#Improved Intercept - rank 1/2
#Improved Berserker Rage - rank 2/2
#Flurry - rank 5/5
#Precision - rank 3/3
#Bloodthirst - rank 1/1
#Improved Whirlwind - rank 2/2



Protection Talents - 5 points

#Tactical Mastery - rank 5/5


....I think

[ArchOni]

Was hoping on both sword spec and flurry:) I'm having fun with 2 swords and sword spec atm^^

[Dojun]

Is it a grinding build you are after or a raid dps build?

[ArchOni]

a raid dps would be best, would still be able to grind with it:)

[Defiance]

This is my Fury build which i'll propably hoping to have TF in OH and a nice hard hitting sword in MH :D

Warrior
Minimum level required: 70
Number of talent points required: 61

Arms Talents - 25 points

# Deflection - rank 5/5
# Improved Charge - rank 2/2
# Iron Will - rank 5/5
# Improved Overpower - rank 2/2
# Anger Management - rank 1/1
# Deep Wounds - rank 3/3
# Impale - rank 2/2
# Sword Specialization - rank 5/5

Fury Talents - 31 points

# Cruelty - rank 5/5
# Unbridled Wrath - rank 5/5
# Improved Battle Shout - rank 5/5
# Dual Wield Specialization - rank 4/5
# Enrage - rank 5/5
# Death Wish - rank 1/1
# Flurry - rank 5/5
# Bloodthirst - rank 1/1

Protection Talents - 5 points

# Tactical Mastery - rank 5/5

Would like comments on it.

Better Build, maximizes damage, but gotta control yourself. (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?3500502030200050000000050500054050100 50100005000000000000000000000)

However, untill you get either the TF or something like the Crul'Shoruk or higher, Dual Wield spec is utter shite, so if you have less then either of those, don't take it and spend the 4 points in Improved Cleave (if you want a safer alternative to Heroic Strike) or Improved Zerker Stance/Intercept/Execute.

Improved Charge is pointless for high end gear as you generate an enormous fuckload of rage allready, Charge is just wasting points, Anger Management is an even bigger waste, 1 rage every 3 seconds for a full fledged Fury Warrior? .. pitifull talent... really.

[ArchOni]

I know there ain't no stance-dance possible here or atleast gimped...

Arms Talents - 18 points

# Improved Heroic Strike - rank 3/3
# Deflection - rank 5/5
# Iron Will - rank 5/5
# Deep Wounds - rank 3/3
# Impale - rank 2/2

Fury Talents - 43 points

# Booming Voice - rank 5/5
# Cruelty - rank 5/5
# Improved Battle Shout - rank 5/5
# Dual Wield Specialization - rank 5/5
# Improved Execute - rank 2/2
# Enrage - rank 5/5
# Death Wish - rank 1/1
# Improved Intercept - rank 2/2
# Flurry - rank 5/5
# Precision - rank 3/3
# Bloodthirst - rank 1/1
# Improved Berserker Stance - rank 3/3
# Rampage - rank 1/1

Not really into tanking when BC gets out

[Defiance]

I know there ain't no stance-dance possible here or atleast gimped...

Arms Talents - 18 points

# Improved Heroic Strike - rank 3/3
# Deflection - rank 5/5
# Iron Will - rank 5/5
# Deep Wounds - rank 3/3
# Impale - rank 2/2

Fury Talents - 43 points

# Booming Voice - rank 5/5
# Cruelty - rank 5/5
# Improved Battle Shout - rank 5/5
# Dual Wield Specialization - rank 5/5
# Improved Execute - rank 2/2
# Enrage - rank 5/5
# Death Wish - rank 1/1
# Improved Intercept - rank 2/2
# Flurry - rank 5/5
# Precision - rank 3/3
# Bloodthirst - rank 1/1
# Improved Berserker Stance - rank 3/3
# Rampage - rank 1/1

Not really into tanking when BC gets out

Dump Booming Voice, get Improved Beserker Rage and Piercing Howl or Improved Cleave and put 2 points into TM, far better.

[ArchOni]

Dump Booming Voice, get Improved Beserker Rage and Piercing Howl or Improved Cleave and put 2 points into TM, far better.

Can't see how to do that when I looked at the talent tree.

[Defiance]

Can't see how to do that when I looked at the talent tree.

w00ps, thought you got Unbridled Wrath there aswell.

Try this then:

Something you might like. (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?3400500030200000000000050500055050121 53100312000000000000000000000)

[Darkstyle]

i would go for this (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?0500000000000000000000000000000000000 00000005525513333022123131051) spec prolly (prot build)

[Dojun]

3 points in improved shieldblock is a waste 1 point is what you want in it. Improved sunder wont do much good I think with the new 41 point talent, you will sunder up a target 5 times and then just spam devastate. Improved shieldbash and imp revange I wouldnt put any points in since most bosses cant be silenced/stunned. Put 3 points in focused rage for cheaper skills instead.
Would go for something like this, might change it a bit since I havnt really spent a lot of time looking at the new skills
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?3500000000000000000000020000000000000 00000003525511030022103531351

[Darkstyle]

thats nice too although i dont use heroic strike that much i use it occasionally but not like a main skill and i also want te be able to grind although i got a tank spec so stun would be nice in that case since my dmg wont be that high

[Dojun]

thats nice too although i dont use heroic strike that much i use it occasionally but not like a main skill and i also want te be able to grind although i got a tank spec so stun would be nice in that case since my dmg wont be that high

How do you grind now? do you use shield or do you use a 2h/dual wield? If you use a shield I would only use shieldslam for grinding not revange or shieldbash. If you use a 2 hander/dual wield atleast I use kinda much heroics since I dont have MS

[Defiance]

Heroic Strike is the hardest hitting skill a warrior has, it's usefull in all builds.

I use it in my prot build currently for max effeciency if you're tanking/offtanking, you can seriously put out alot more aggro, not to mention generate more aggro then without on OT positions where you don't get rage, 5 piece Wrath helps alot aswell, sucks i had to give that up for Dreadnaught ><

I use Heroic Strike in Prot and Fury builds to grind and damage(actually i've done prot grinding a couple times, and now i refuse to because it's fucking rediculous), it really is a pretty damn nice skill, but you're going to get quite agitated if you had the talent points in it and then respec and lose them for tanking.

[Darkstyle]

execute is hardest hitting skill and whirlwind does more dmg and i grind with a other char IF needed i dont need cash i got 380 gold or so but i dont need it...... so grinding is just for pots / runecloth / winterfall firewater and rest is AH shopping ftw :P

[Defiance]

execute is hardest hitting skill and whirlwind does more dmg and i grind with a other char IF needed i dont need cash i got 380 gold or so but i dont need it...... so grinding is just for pots / runecloth / winterfall firewater and rest is AH shopping ftw :P

Execute has a dependancy of your target being at 19% or lower, where Heroic Strike does not, and Whirlwind does not by any chance in hell do more damage, whirlwind is pure weapon damage only (modified by AP) whereas Heroic Strike does weapon damage (modified by AP) + 157 if you have the AQ20 skillbook, wich makes it superior to Whirlwind in damage.

Heroic Strike has a very high efficiency and if you have a quite nice MH your HS will be more efficient then Execute, Execute is a rage burner and if you need that rage into damage now, yes it's instant and HS is not, still does not take away the fact that using HS is more efficient for grinding then Execute.

I hear (no confirmations) that you've taken down a couple Naxx bosses, if this is true then you should be "easily" able to get the Misplaced Servo-Arm wich has an incredibly stupid damage range with a 238 top damage number.
I've farmed the trash in DK wing and spider wing with 8 people as minimum, you can do this f.ex (patience counts offcourse) and farm as many Servo-Arms as you want, or the Harbinger of Doom etc.

Spec Fury with the Servo-Arm and you can do a stupid amount of damage, even furthering the efficiency of Heroic Strike, execute is to undependable to call it the hardest hitting skill as it requires you to bring that target to 20% first, whilst in PvP it's extremely important, in PvE and grinding it comes to second place 90% of the time.

[Derekian]

On the topic of getting the Imp. HS talent: I usually skip it because when I'm dps'ing I have a full rage bar all the time and since I usually can't spam Heroic Strike like crazy (Aggro) it stays full :p

So instead I get 5/5 Deflection to make it a bit more efficient in PvP.

Do you mind saying what's the usual group layout when you go on those farming runs? I'd also like to know which trash you can take with 8 ppl

[GuardianAnge1]

I hear (no confirmations) that you've taken down a couple Naxx bosses

not true

[Darkstyle]

damn i need to learn my class :P:P thx 4 info anyways ^^

[Defiance]

On the topic of getting the Imp. HS talent: I usually skip it because when I'm dps'ing I have a full rage bar all the time and since I usually can't spam Heroic Strike like crazy (Aggro) it stays full :p

So instead I get 5/5 Deflection to make it a bit more efficient in PvP.

Do you mind saying what's the usual group layout when you go on those farming runs? I'd also like to know which trash you can take with 8 ppl

Mostly the DK wing mobs, they are pretty easy with 8 peeps, the shades are the more difficult ones, but should be doable.

Last group config was 2 Warriors, 2 Paladins, Mage/Lock/Priest/Rogue.

If i do spec Prot, i spec 13/2/36, Arms would be Imp. HS/Deflection/TM.
Fury Spec: Depends what mood i'm in, but usually 2 points in Imp. HS.

Yeh i do use HS, but i have blessing of E-Z-Mode.

[Aeroth]

i would go for this (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?0500000000000000000000000000000000000 00000005525513333022123131051) spec prolly (prot build)

that made me rofl. No seriously..
wait.. it did :)

mine will be something like:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?3500202033201042000000055031050050100 50100003000000000000000000000

as for pure tanking:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warrior/talents.html?3500000000000000000000050500000000000 00000005005511030022100531351

[Darkstyle]

that made me rofl. No seriously..
wait.. it did :)

mine will be something like:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?3500202033201042000000055031050050100 50100003000000000000000000000

as for pure tanking:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warrior/talents.html?3500000000000000000000050500000000000 00000005005511030022100531351

/sigh all i gotta say

[Dojun]

/sigh all i gotta say

It really made some of us rofl it really did.

damn i need to learn my class :P:P thx 4 info anyways ^^

Amen to that

[ArchOni]

Warrior
Minimum level required: 70
Number of talent points required: 61

Arms Talents - 17 points

# Deflection - rank 5/5
# Improved Charge - rank 2/2
# Improved Thunder Clap - rank 3/3
# Improved Overpower - rank 2/2
# Deep Wounds - rank 3/3
# Impale - rank 2/2

Fury Talents - 41 points

# Booming Voice - rank 5/5
# Cruelty - rank 5/5
# Improved Battle Shout - rank 5/5
# Improved Execute - rank 2/2
# Enrage - rank 5/5
# Death Wish - rank 1/1
# Improved Intercept - rank 2/2
# Improved Berserker Rage - rank 2/2
# Flurry - rank 5/5
# Precision - rank 2/3
# Bloodthirst - rank 1/1
# Improved Berserker Stance - rank 5/5
# Rampage - rank 1/1

Protection Talents - 3 points

# Tactical Mastery - rank 3/3

This is a spec i find to be really fun:)

[Derekian]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?2502000000000000000000055000105505010 25310510300000000000000000000 currently using this at lvl65

If my gear gets at a lvl where i won't need Precision i'll prolly spec like this: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?3502002030200000000000055000105525010 05010510300000000000000000000 for PvE dps

[ArchOni]

I'm using a 2h weapon with my spec and it can do some nice damage:)

[Defiance]

2h Warriors with the current rage gen system on Beta are dead.

Takes you 3 - 4 swings with a 2h to smack an MS on a plate mob and 2 - 3 swings on a cloth mob, not to mention your crit will be instantly nerfed as the 20 agi you required for 1% crit before is now 26 @ L60.

So yeh, prepare to feel the burn.

[Derekian]

afaik if u dont get Endless Rage u're quite fucked with a 2h....but when u got the talent it aint that bad

[ArchOni]

I got no problem with rage.

[Defiance]

afaik if u dont get Endless Rage u're quite fucked with a 2h....but when u got the talent it aint that bad

Even Endless Rage doesn't cut it, not to mention taking endless rage will destroy far better talent choices you can take.

And if you seriously have no problems with rage, then i don't know wether you think it's normal to do as i described above, i fucking sure as hell don't with 1 of the game's strongest 2h weapons (Dark Edge of Insanity).

The new rage system (wich is hopefully a bug but knowing blizzard, not a chance in hell) is inverted scaling, meaning the better weapon you get, the LESS rage you get from the exact same damage you do, and this i've tested, my Dark Edge crit a boar outside IF for 1168 and generated 21 rage, then my Arcanite Reaper crit the same level boar for 1098 and generated 24 rage, this is how fucked we are.

Trying to do anything with a 2h is just painfull, it really is, i've specced to Fury wich is JUST tolerable with D/W, otherwise not a chance in hell i'm leveling with a 2h, or maybe even stopping warrior completely since i'm sick and tired of the constant nerfing to obliviously large magnitudes.

[ArchOni]

I'm using OEB atm.

[Derekian]

uhm arent u the one with tf? why on earth would u leave that little precious thing in your bags and use a crappy 2h? :(

btw Defiance have you tried Devastate?

[Defiance]

uhm arent u the one with tf? why on earth would u leave that little precious thing in your bags and use a crappy 2h? :(

btw Defiance have you tried Devastate?

I don't have a TF, if you were referring to me that is.

And yes i have, it's good for when you're the MT of a fight and PARTIALLY for grinding (damage is still pretty pathetic, but better then nothing with a slow 1h).

Overall it's still best to stick 3 points in improves sunder and heroic if you're tanking, along with the -3 rage talent in the prot tree, extremely high efficiency that way and will build far more aggro if you're not the MT or need to regain aggro.

[Derekian]

I was thinking asomething along these lines http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?2500000000000000000000005500100000000 00000002305511030002120531351

I like piercing howl too much :(

or this http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?3500000000000000000000005000000000000 00000002305511332002120531351 if i did decide to skip piercing howl, tkaing imp revenge since in most new instances all mobs are stunnable :D

[ArchOni]

uhm arent u the one with tf? why on earth would u leave that little precious thing in your bags and use a crappy 2h? :(

btw Defiance have you tried Devastate?

I wanted to try the arms/fury trees out and OEB is the best 2h i got atm:D

[Nikodemus]

I tried grinding a bit weird prot style in the BC beta.

8 / 0 / 44 (level 61 spec, so not all points available)
Offensive armor
Deathbringer + shield
Build up 5 sunders, devastate a few times, then execute
Stay in battle stance since it's not worth taking the 10% extra damage for 3% crit when you don't have flurry
Works a lot better than expected. Really cuts down downtime a lot, and killing isn't as slow as one should think :)

[Sligrun]

I tried several builds and the one I prefer stays protection

I ll go for a 15/5/41 most probaby, with 3 points in focus rage. When you go in defensive mode you can have your shield bloc nearly up all the time, actually I can take up to 3 target of the same level, killing is not very fast but your life goes down more slowly. In some 1v1 I loose about 250hp only (less on caster as with shield bash + concussive + spell reflection they can't even do any magical damage). Good 1H weapons to use too, I actually have a 58dps claw for solo and a 1.90 speed 47 dps axe for tanking in instances.

Sure I could have put more in defensive but those points in arm makes me keep dot on the target all the time and help when soloing. With that build I nearly can't be outaggroed when dps wait more than 0,5 sec to burst, at least never lost any aggro on bosses. Tanking up to 3 target without loosing aggro is even possible if dps focus on 1 target so I can only maintain enough aggro on the 2 other and max aggro the one to be killed first.

I'm 65 atm so haven't increased my crit chance (15/0/41 atm), even without I crit often enough actually, so I can expect more better at 70

my tanking style actually is to sudden 5 quickly with revenge when it procs then aternating, shield block > devastate > revenge > devastate > shieldblock. If I have a lot of rage i add a shield slam too. Works lovely

[ArchOni]

Level 70 Warrior (33/25/3)

Arms (33 points)

Deflection - Rank 5/5
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

Improved Charge - Rank 2/2
Increases the amount of rage generated by your Charge ability by 6.

Iron Will - Rank 5/5
Increases your chance to resist stun and charm effects by 15%.

Improved Overpower - Rank 2/2
Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.

Anger Management - Rank 1/1
Generates 1 rage per 3 seconds.

Deep Wounds - Rank 3/3
Your critical strikes cause the opponent to bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 sec.

Impale - Rank 2/2
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your abilities in Battle, Defensive, and Berserker stance by 20%.

Sweeping Strikes - Rank 1/1
Your next 5 melee weapon swings strike an additional nearby opponent.

Sword Specialization - Rank 5/5
Gives you a 5% chance to get an extra attack on the same target after dealing damage with your Sword.

Weapon Mastery - Rank 1/2
Increases skill with all weapons by 2 and increases your chance to resist Disarm effects by an additional 50%.

Improved Disciplines - Rank 3/3
Reduces the cooldown of your Retaliation, Recklessness and Shield Wall abilities by 10 min and increases their duration by 6 sec.

Mortal Strike - Rank 1/1
A vicious strike that deals weapon damage plus 300 and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 50% for 10 sec

Second Wind - Rank 2/2
Whenever you are struck by a Stun or Immobilize effect you will generate 20 rage and 10% of your total health over 10 sec.

Fury (25 points)

Booming Voice - Rank 5/5
Increases the area of effect and duration of your Battle Shout, Demoralizing Shout and Commanding Shout by 50%.

Cruelty - Rank 5/5
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with melee weapons by 5%.

Piercing Howl - Rank 1/1
Causes all enemies near the warrior to be dazed, reducing movement speed by 50% for 6 sec.

Blood Craze - Rank 3/3
Regenerates 3% of your total health over 6 sec after being the victim of a critical strike.

Improved Battle Shout - Rank 5/5
Increases the Attack Power bonus of your Battle Shout by 25%.

Enrage - Rank 5/5
Gives you a 25% melee damage bonus for 12 sec up to a maximum of 12 swings after being the victim of a critical strike.

Death Wish - Rank 1/1
When activated, increases your physical damage by 20% and makes you immune to Fear effects, but increases all damage taken by 5%. Lasts 30 sec.

Protection (3 points)

Tactical Mastery - Rank 3/3
You retain up to an additional 15 of your rage points when you change stances.

[Nikodemus]

omg Gatzu, you came up with a spec that makes sense oO

[GuardianAnge1]

omg Gatzu, you came up with a spec that makes sense oO

and from day forth, his call will be christ - son of god.

[ArchOni]

omg Gatzu, you came up with a spec that makes sense oO

Are you just kidding or do you actually mean that?:p

[Nikodemus]

There's a few minor things I'd probably change personally, but yes overall it is a very sensible PvP arms build imo.