Proposal : New NC Reaction Force

[TataLebuj]

Here's a PM I got from MREmerica on NCWerner.com --

Hey mate

Im glad you posted about co-ordination on the forums. After topics dicussed on /c last night it got me thinking. What we as NC are really lacking is a fast response unit, such as 75th rapid reaction for TR. Now as TR show this doesnt have to be an outfit (RIP vietcong) but a group of people willing to follow orders on the same Ts and squadded, who are ready to drop anything to resecure hacks. Ideally imo it would be Cr5s or people who are not concerned about the points - so RL for example would be a good show case - shame about low member counts recently. I know phath and bountyhunter said they had something planned NCWA styley, and i will talk to them about it. But what I am talking about is a core of good players ready to drop things and go places, as that is what I enjoy. Will be interesting if things are able to push forward on this idea, what it needs is a good TS server - i.e. RL are on 58th atm and with extra space so that could be ideal - or BDx have one shared with AF atm which could be upped insize to accomodate the reaction force. I personally would be willing to help out, or at least work more closely together with RL as force to be reckoned with. Let me know your ideas mate.

Emerica.

Here was my response:

Sweet Idea and great timing!!! Let me discuss it with everyone in RL and then in NCWA, but I will say that I agree with you. As it stands now, most NC don't play the game tactically, they just want to killwhore/fight. And the shape/color of the map has no bearing on their playstyle. Your idea would give the NC a solid punch to kick those beginning threats from our home/locked continents.

But take the idea further, and now you have a full squad/platoon ready to tactically take on continents : Not the primary targets, but the empty continents that get no NC attention because there is no significant fight. Instead of seeing that the capturing of continents for us ensures the NC ability to fight where we CHOOSE.

Anyway, lets see what response we get from everyone to see if this is even doable.

Cheers,



Let's discuss!

[Echor]

I like the idea, RL has always been known for its ability to move fast, that still exists (although one or 2 sometimes need a reminder that we are doing it).

We've already proved that just by sharing a TS server and using Command Whispers, that the basic concept works.

I'll think more about it, very tired atm

[JojoTheSlayer]

As events, maby once or twice a month, it will work great, but if its gonna be as a standing order peps mostly will get tired of it in the long run I think. One outfit will falter then the rest will follow some time after that.

As whit everyone even if we all mostly like doing team stuff we alwayes needs some solo stuff to do from time to time. Even if its not needed that often. My fear is just this that if becomes a strain to do, since we then will do it "too" often, how often is too much can be debated ofcourse :), peps will just stop doing it. Just like what happend to old NCW Alliance.

*We should keep it as big org fights as events from time to time.

*Have som req for those outfits that wanna join the alliance

*and keep it small, or not to big, in the start to get it going in the direction "we" want. Once the overal direction is settled we can take in other outfits that have the choice of ether get whit the program or get out... No point to have so many debaters at the table in the starting fase so nothing gets done or the debate takes so long peps loose intrest.

Jojo.

[TataLebuj]

As events, maby once or twice a month, it will work great, but if its gonna be as a standing order peps mostly will get tired of it in the long run I think. One outfit will falter then the rest will follow some time after that.

You mean doing the reactionay force as an Event? Not sure that would work very well, since that would mean that only once or twice a month we would actually resecure "in force" a continent or two. Not really what I was envisioning.

As whit everyone even if we all mostly like doing team stuff we alwayes needs some solo stuff to do from time to time. Even if its not needed that often. My fear is just this that if becomes a strain to do, since we then will do it "too" often, how often is too much can be debated ofcourse :), peps will just stop doing it. Just like what happend to old NCW Alliance.

I agree with you about "time to time soloing". And since I haven't been online as much as I'd like, I can't really comment on what's been happening consistently. But what I can say is that yesterday I had to beg to have a squad....and then Gunhead felt pity on me and agreed. :D

I want to come up with a very diplomatic way of saying "I hate when I don't have a team to play with, I feel like logging out and playing CS:S or AA:SF. I don't feel good and want to cry over a whiskey and coke." So if you can come up with any helpful suggestions, I would be very appreciative! :eek:

But seriously, unless the NC come up with SOMETHING that is daily and coordinated, then I think the NC will be in the doghouse for awhile.

Jojo - Have you been online lately? The NC empire is turning rapidly into the TR of 5 months ago - weak and pathetic. We are lacking serious organization and command authority, but most importantly we have few people who will leave the zerg to resecure or to start a continent. We have been on the defensive for the last 3 weeks straight, and I for one am tired of it. This reactionary force is (IMO) something we, the NC, NEED. Period. End of Story. And I am really hoping that RL can back this idea as a whole. We are one of the last few Outfits that can do it (think back to the other night guys....we ROCKED, we resecured with 2 SECONDS left!! Outnumbered and Out gunned, we still did it. ) This is not an attack at Jojo, just curious if he's been able to see it first hand.

I do agree with you about the lack of participation after constantly doing it, which is why I'm hoping that RL will agree to this. If RL does agree then we can move to put it up as the GOAL of our Alliance. We no longer just have a day where we "work together" and then the odd day that we coordinate. But rather our Alliance has a Mission. One that we can throw in the face of the enemy and make damn sure that the TR's bulldozer starts looking for purple continents first. As soon as that is done we can reverse the plan, so that when we are NOT resecuring we are opening up continents. If we have to hack empty continents, so be it. We are helping the Empire, and that is my paramount duty/fun-factor.


*We should keep it as big org fights as events from time to time.

*Have som req for those outfits that wanna join the alliance

*and keep it small, or not to big, in the start to get it going in the direction "we" want. Once the overal direction is settled we can take in other outfits that have the choice of ether get whit the program or get out... No point to have so many debaters at the table in the starting fase so nothing gets done or the debate takes so long peps loose intrest.

Jojo.

*Well, we are really hoping to have each Sunday at 7pm GMT be our Alliance Event night. One commander, three (or four) outfits.

*Agreed. Absolutely and wholeheartedly!

*Agreed. Absolutely and wholeheartedly!!

Of course, I think some of this post belongs in the "PS Discussion" thread NCWERNER.com NCWA?. As this thread is speaking about a Reactionary force. Or was all of your comments on that?

Cheers,

[Freon]

In the short time I have been playing PS, even I have noticed a shift in Empire power, away from the dominant force NC was when I started playing.
I can only comment on the time I have played, and I still have a shed load to learn about tactics for PS, but i suspect a coordinated large scale rapid force would shift the balance back.

It will also be interesting to see how/ how long, the TR and VS respond to such a tactic.

Though only br17 and very little experience, I will be happy to give this a go :)

[FuSs]

resecure pwnage and small squads that actually work very close together are my life ;)

[Flufball]

April 1st is my return date for PS I like the idea of this :)

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Now that Im soloing I would be up for this, if you see me ingame and your part of the rapid reaction squad then send me an invite and Ill help out.

[-=58th=-Phathogen]

Well Eme came on TS and chatted on to me about this.

I got the idea he would like a channel, which any one from the alliance outfits could join, all you need is mossie, and eme would lead it.

This would benefit us because:

1. they will use channel command, e.g Eme sees TR on solsar, goes but is out numberd, to asks us for help. (There for him working as kind of a scout for us)

2. If we see TR on solsar, we can ask on channel command for his squad to check it out ;)

Phath

[TataLebuj]

^^ That would work wonderfully!!

We can either : Stay as our normal outfit group and then MrEmerica shoots out a global : Reaction Force needed. Or something more cryptic so the game pop goes "Huh? What's that?". When we see it we all hit a button (that we've configured already) to move channels into the Reactionary Room, then we recall/grab mossies/and head for the target.

Or spend our time in MrEmerica's channel doing the constant looking for baddies.

I like option 1 best. And with 6 of us actively agreeing to do this, and I'm sure a few from 58th and Fight Club will want to participate, we could really have a serious quick reaction force on hand.

I'm game and will setup my bind tonight.

Cheers,

[MiMaRz]

/sign me up for it anytime;)

[JojoTheSlayer]

Jojo - Have you been online lately?


Yeah was on 2 days ago. NC actualy had half to starmap at that moment after making a comback from when the TR zero based us a few nights before. Right now the only RL game am playing is PS from time to time.

One thing I have noticed doh is that we have some good hardcore players, some "guest" veterans from time to time and a few new additions that hopefully will become better in the RL wayes as time goes on.
The thing we realy need is more new players and maby a few more certed gal pilots :). I think the alliance events etc, if done correctly, will increase the potensial for all those outfits to recruit more abeld bodies, so am not against the ideas. I just think that its best to think twice about not overloading the "ship" whit to much ambitions so it sinks like a stone...

If theres and idea that can make the Resec Force Alliance more flexable and not in the area of "forced apon peps" ( directly or indirectly ) am all for it. When you think of how many outfits are about taking orders from other outfit leaders etc you all know that this issue, if done incorrectly, could turn out to be a mine field.

All am saying is, think twice and not to big, nor to smal.

Jojo.

[TataLebuj]

Hehe....I guess that is one of my big flaws, I'm an optimist rather then a realist. I see the potential the NC have, and just naively believe that other's will recognize that potential, but also participate in making that potential into a reality.


I agree that I must restrain myself a bit more, and have this alliance start slowly.

Cheers,