Request to increase Gauss clip size (Official Forum)

[FuSs]

Thread (http://psforums.station.sony.com/ps/board/message?board.id=psdiscussion&message.id=523088)

support it lads.

[Kampf]

i will not support this, i hate all the patches, if they buff the gauss the vanguard will get a terrible bug and the framerate will go down again.
at everypatch i get 5 new bugs and 10 frames less.
they should put the game back to version 1.0 and remove the bfrs+battleislands+br23

[Freon]

So im in a close firefight, 1 on 1 with the nme. I give him some hard Gauss action and he is nearly dead. Then (you've all been there), I have to reload, while he keeps shooting with Cycler/ Pulsar. And I die. :eek:
This happens so often, im sure we all know this scenario if using a Gauss. I like the weapon and have always wanted another few rounds in the clip, so i can give the killing blow fairly.
I like the idea of this

[Vasquez]

In terms of 'fairness', it dosn't need a buff, the pulsar just needs a clip size nerf. But I do know what u mean about just needing a few shots more... But I think this might overpower it vs. cycler. So perhaps, buff cycler damage a smidgen and buff gauss clip size by 5?

[JojoTheSlayer]

In terms of 'fairness', it dosn't need a buff, the pulsar just needs a clip size nerf. But I do know what u mean about just needing a few shots more... But I think this might overpower it vs. cycler. So perhaps, buff cycler damage a smidgen and buff gauss clip size by 5?

/Agree.
Dont mind losing to HA 1on1 close range since it is a weapon you have to pay 4 extra certs for. If you had a Pulsar those times you just nearly killed the enemy whit a Guass, but had to reload, you would mostly have won.
Also the Pulsar has Anti armor switch to boot.

[FuSs]

In terms of 'fairness', it dosn't need a buff, the pulsar just needs a clip size nerf. But I do know what u mean about just needing a few shots more... But I think this might overpower it vs. cycler. So perhaps, buff cycler damage a smidgen and buff gauss clip size by 5?

ask in the forum to nerf a vs weapon and 1 million vanu monkeys flame you to death :P
and 27 required hits to take down a fully modded enemy soldier with 30 shots per clip is a bit tough.
think 35 shots per clip is more than fair with the rexo buff, improved personal shield and incentives

[Nikodemus]

IMO;
Punisher > Gauss > Sweeper >>> Pulsar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cycler

Nope, gauss doesn't need a buff :)

[Nyana]

[Darth Vader voice]
Don't underestimate the power of the Cycler!
[/Darth Vader voice]

Cycler indoor for the win

[Echor]

After a bad start on the official forum, due to idiots flaming nonsense, this thread has amazingly turned into something near a proper debate!

On a side note, I've been trying an experiment, I've been carrying a punisher, loaded with jammers, appart from a surprisingly large number of boomer kills being credited to me (I don't have CE) I've found that most enemy drop much faster than I expected. So what does this mean? Only that people rely very heavily on their implants to win, take them away, they die :)

[FuSs]

jammer nade
=
-100 health from personal shield (very often)
-25health -25stamina (not so often)

plasma nade
=
-50 health over time and some armor ???


plasma nade does damage against everyone but jammer does a lot more damage against the shield whores.
after that initial jammer it is Rexo, Pshield, Punisher against Rexo, MCG/Lasher.

[Derekian]

IMO;
Punisher > Gauss > Sweeper >>> Pulsar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cycler

Nope, gauss doesn't need a buff :)
Really got to disagree :D

You are comparing the swee[er with med range weapons....and no the Punisher is not better than the gauss :p

[One Armed Scissor]

IMO;
Punisher > Gauss > Sweeper >>> Pulsar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cycler

Nope, gauss doesn't need a buff :)
Really got to disagree :D

You are comparing the swee[er with med range weapons....and no the Punisher is not better than the gauss :p

derek i still have the gausss rifle i stole off you when i tk'ed you :p

[Derekian]

I want that back :(

[P3taloudas]

bloody forum trolls have wanked all over your thread FuSS.... it's not worth posting anymore...

the post was about a 5 bullet increase in the gauss clip...

90% of the post in there talk about the other 2 MAs, some talk about the the JH, others talk about the empire themes, eliminatorr talks about capitols and mods and rexoshield...

i mean it's amazing how much stupidity one forum can contain.

[One Armed Scissor]

I want that back :(


sorry dude not subscribed :p

if you give me £7.50 to sub again ill gladly give u it back :D

[Derekian]

Points at "kiss my ..." sign :D

[FuSs]

After a bad start on the official forum, due to idiots flaming nonsense, this thread has amazingly turned into something near a proper debate!


the problem is that there are no arguments against the clip size increase.
the facts are pretty simple:
pulsar does the same damage at the same rate of fire but has 10 shots more per clip and has instant switch AV mode.

[One Armed Scissor]

Points at "kiss my ..." sign :D

jsut egt some PS h4x so u can get any armys equipment

[Nikodemus]

The reason why the gauss beats the feck out of the pulsar, imo:
- when you're shooting with a pulsar and take damage, your CoF becomes the size of Russia and never shrinks again
- when you're shooting with a gauss and take damage, your CoF expands very little and shrinks to minimum nearly instantly
- if you want to shoot at someone 50+ meters away with a pulsar, you can fire 3 shots then wait 5 secs for CoF to shrink
- if you want to shoot at someone 50+ meters away with a gauss, you can single-shoot at 90% speed (compared to autofiring) and hit with every single shot

Seriously: actual TTK (including not only theoretical DPS but also the rate at which you can actually score hits) at 50 meters is so much better for a gauss then it is for a pulsar.

I.e.:
The CoF shrink speed on the gauss is so incredibly uber that it easily makes up for the downsides

But then again it doesn't matter because the punisher is better and available to all =)

[Daymare]

firstly niko, the punisher is not better, it blooms all over the place, and does less dps on 50+
secondly: the gauss does not need a buff, it is very much balanced if you ask me. and I would be damned if I ever ran out of gausshots trying to down one guy :)


not including any numbers on this because niko will wtfpwn me

[Nikodemus]

Yep, punisher CoF does have the worst bloom of them all + the damage per shot is just as low as on the cycler (18 base) ... but then there's that cute little nade holster =)