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[Hovis]

Just wanted to drop a quick post in here to let you know hints at what I know on the sly. Just so you know. :cool:

If you're looking to upgrade now or soon you should hold on. The new AMD CPUs are not very good but the new Intels are. Very good. Don't quote me on this, in fact I never said it at all, but the word I'm getting is that they are about twice as fast as AMD CPUs. We're talking absolute, unmitigated, pwnage.

In other news graphics cards are getting ready for new tech. I think ATI are due to drop something in the summer, and the Nvidia 7950 is actually pretty sweet. Dual graphics in one, albeit rather expensive, card.

More news later. :D

[Ludicrouse]

Just wanted to drop a quick post in here to let you know hints at what I know on the sly. Just so you know. :cool:

If you're looking to upgrade now or soon you should hold on. The new AMD CPUs are not very good but the new Intels are. Very good. Don't quote me on this, in fact I never said it at all, but the word I'm getting is that they are about twice as fast as AMD CPUs. We're talking absolute, unmitigated, pwnage.

In other news graphics cards are getting ready for new tech. I think ATI are due to drop something in the summer, and the Nvidia 7950 is actually pretty sweet. Dual graphics in one, albeit rather expensive, card.

More news later. :D


Intel beating AMD??? Flipping heck that would be a first for a longggg time.. oh well it will prolly last 2 months i reckon :p

[James24]

holy crap, 7950. Anyone want my 1900? :D

nah, not worth the upgrade to be honest considering you can get an x1900 for around £300.

Bit like the 7800gtx 512, Nvidia are just trying to make some quick money before they release G80.

[Hovis]

The 7950 is absolutely uber BUT it relies on SLI to get top speed. In games with no SLI profile, such as Need For Speed: Most Wanted the card runs about the same speed as a good X1800. If all games had SLI profiles this would be fine, but SLI is about 18 months old now and it still is not standard on all new releases, and if it is not standard by now it probably never will be.

But yeah, I have mucked around with socket 940 AMD chips, the M2s as they are called, and they basically do very little that is any good. The Intel chips are low clock speed, low power (which means they will overclock to unprecedented levels) and they basically own. Without knowing or being able to divulge too much at this time, and bearing in mind that few games are CPU limited anyway, these things could be bordering on revolutionary in terms of how great an improvement they are.

[Vasquez]

Fuck you Hincey. I just get close to saving up enough money for my custom SIG P210 and you make me want to go and buy a new PC as well :mad:

:p

[GuardianAnge1]

Fuck you Hincey

/agree

[Flufball]

Hincey? Surely you mean Hovis?

[Ludicrouse]

Fuck you Hincey.


QFT

[Vasquez]

No, I am referring to Hovis but I called him Hincey just to humiliate him. Obviously.

:rolleyes:

[Nyana]

Why bother with buying new cards while DirectX 10 is coming end this year, along with Vista?

[Hovis]

Because the end of the year is six months away and nobody is going to be using Vista for another year?

[Nyana]

To use Crysis and the new Unreal to its full potential? :)

[James24]

if you want the best of the best single card this is it. But its a bit like the 7800gtx 512mb. Insanely fast but 2 months later the superior x1900xtx came out.

You've gotta be smart to make sure you don't spend your money too soon.

[Freon]

From what i know of the new Intel cpu, it has 4mb of L2 mem onboard, and some trick power saving stuff. the cache is allocated to each core, by how much load is on them. So its way more efficient than seperate L2 cache on other chips. Alot faster than an FX-62 anyway.
But AMD are rumoured to be working on a new chip with double the floating point power, 4 cores onboard, wider hyperthreading and level 3 cache. So how long Intel are ahead depends on how quick AMD bring this new animal out.

As for the Nvidia 7950, it works out cheaper than buying 2 7800s, so its good bang for buck. But from what I have read, the ATI 1900s kick it about at the kind of resolutions, that gamers use. But at VERY high res, the 7950 flies.

[James24]

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2769

An article i found about the 7950. The card is always ahead of the 7900gt SLi which can be found cheapest for £200x2.

Yeah Conroe should be excellent, I mean AM2 was a piece of crap really. I'm on a 3500 and there is nothing out there at the moment that provides a decent upgrade. X2 are too expensive for little gain and the other single core chips don't increase performance that much to be honest. So Conroe looks to be the perfect party piece.