Personal Webserver?

[Kampf]

hi guys i need a server, and i never had a server before.
i need it to have mysql php, and other shit that could be usefull cauld do it as well.
i do not want to spend more than 1.500 euro.
has anyone an idea where i can buy one or help me to configurate one?
i tryed www.dell.com but they want 2000 euro for a 2.4ghz intel with 1 gig ram.
and do i need to buy lots of software for it or is there freeware?

[Echor]

You really need a server, not perhaps network storage? like this (http://www.pricewatch.dealtime.co.uk/xPO-Buffalo_Technology_LINKSTATION_NTWK_STORAGE_CTR_12 0GB_LINKSTATION_NTWK_STORAGE_CTR_120GB)

If you need a server, any last gen comp will do as long as you put a network card in it and a suitably sized hard drive (think second hand to save money)

[Kampf]

i do not know what i need exactly i need something at my home wich can use php+mysql like puplic webspace.
but i want noone to be able to steel data from it like a worker from a isp could do if u have a puplic webspace.

[Fusion]

I don't understand the pananoia about ISPs/datacentres. What are you planning on running? If you rent a dedicated server from an ISP you should be able to get root access and change the password so no one else can access the server.

If you want a cheap (free) system then the obvious choice is LAMP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_%28software_bundle%29) (Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP/Perl/Python). Want kind of internet connection do you have? If your application is going to be bandwidth intensive then you will probably need to consider getting at least a 10mbps upstream connection (I've no idea how much this costs in Germany, but it is really expensive in the UK).

[Flufball]

If you want a cheap (free) system then the obvious choice is LAMP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_%28software_bundle%29) (Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP/Perl/Python). Want kind of internet connection do you have? If your application is going to be bandwidth intensive then you will probably need to consider getting at least a 10mbps upstream connection (I've no idea how much this costs in Germany, but it is really expensive in the UK).

Not only is it expensive in the UK, its almost non-existant outside of business circles.

[Fusion]

Not only is it expensive in the UK, its almost non-existant outside of business circles. Yep.

[Kampf]

i do not want a root server cause i think the people working on the isp could steal my phpsource

[Fusion]

i do not want a root server cause i think the people working on the isp could steal my phpsource Why would they want to?

If you get a dedicated server with root access, all you need to do is change the password...

[Kampf]

they have a adminpassword for everything m8.
the isp are evil.

[Flufball]

I'm not sure about your country, but if people started doing that here, they would get into trouble, even if it isn't legal, unless the ISP is dodgy as hell they won't get to kindly looked upon if clients data is stolen, coppied and/or reproduced.

Unless you have some genuis new invention that will revolutonise the whole php coding scene, I somehow doubt your source will get stolen, there are pleanty of free solotions for phpcoding out there that are avalible and at much less risk for them.

[Fusion]

they have a adminpassword for everything m8.
the isp are evil. If you pay for a dedicated or co-lo server you should expect to have root (or Administrator on Windows). That means you have total control over the server and can change the password to anything you want. The datacentre where I work has a hard enough time keeping track of the root passwords for our own servers, let alone dedicated or co-lo customers.

[Kampf]

does that mean that the people working at the serverfarm in frankfurt do not have a superadminpassword for my server and everything is save?

[Fusion]

root is superadmin on linux/unix systems. If you don't choose to give them the password, they wont be able to access the shell.

[justinalot]

If you pay for a dedicated or co-lo server you should expect to have root (or Administrator on Windows). That means you have total control over the server and can change the password to anything you want. The datacentre where I work has a hard enough time keeping track of the root passwords for our own servers, let alone dedicated or co-lo customers.


Which Data centre do you work in m8?

I have done alot of work in many data centres

[justinalot]

does that mean that the people working at the serverfarm in frankfurt do not have a superadminpassword for my server and everything is save?


Kampf if you want a site and you can trust me:eek: you can have space on my windows 2003 server based at heathrow data centre it has more than enough bandwidth and the best thing is I get it for free as i support it.

[Fusion]

Which Data centre do you work in m8?

I have done alot of work in many data centres It's probably better if I don't say :p

[Flufball]

Kampf if you want a site and you can trust me:eek: you can have space on my windows 2003 server based at heathrow data centre it has more than enough bandwidth and the best thing is I get it for free as i support it.

Your keen on offering servers and the like Justin, can I have a dedicated Medal of Honour 12 player game server? :p

[justinalot]

Your keen on offering servers and the like Justin, can I have a dedicated Medal of Honour 12 player game server? :p


I will be loading up Ghost recon on it when it comes out. sorry cant have all that bandwidth being wasted