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Fusion
Sunday, 16th January 2005, 02:13
When you log into Steam you should see a message which details the January updates including an offline practice bot and a new map: de_tides (http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/Jan15.2005/img/tides1.jpg).

http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/Jan15.2005/img/TidesThumb.gif (http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/Jan15.2005/img/tides1.jpg)

Another map is in testing for release in February, the only details so far is that it will be a small cs_ map focusing on c.q.b.

Additionaly, Valve say they are working on a number of other things that they are not ready to talk about yet but are promising to keep the community informed of future developments with a weekly update via Steam.

Sounds kind of familiar, doesn't it :)

Vasquez
Sunday, 16th January 2005, 10:41
NOOOOOOOO! more magnetic-to-my-bullets-railings!

Derekian
Sunday, 16th January 2005, 11:27
This new map looks nice :)

GuardianAnge1
Sunday, 16th January 2005, 11:29
yeah, it does. Do we know when they're going to release the new player models?

One Armed Scissor
Sunday, 16th January 2005, 12:24
they best had change the models, there all crippled, you can only see the top 1/3 of the head from behind... so you can run up behind someone and pop one in the back of the head

Oselly
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 09:32
theyre both just gunna be shotgun maddness i bet if theyre both small and cqc a bit like office maybe

InsanE
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 14:01
i dont understand why valve is wasting their time with bots or de_tides i mean wtf when was the last time you saw any clan good or bad play on that map...source is really crap atm and has to be fixed a hella of alot before it should be used for competitive leagues and tournaments. Worrying thing is its gonna be used in march in the second or thrid leg of the CPL World Tour so they havent got much time. First off is recoil. I saw GA running around with para the other day on the RL server and he still managed to ace. Try that in 1.6(or any version of normal CS) and youd probably get as far as hitting somone in the leg before you get killed.

Second of all the barrels. Yes good idea falling barrels which you can shoot and move around. Some people think this is a good idea. Those dont play cs properly with clans etc. Last thing you want in a match is a freaking barrel forcing you to move from your position or blocking your view. Even worse is when those barrels get in your freakin way when your about to rush a bombsite. Yeh thats great isnt you rush but a barrel gets in your way making you lose your momentum before you get mowed down by a ct getting ready to ace. Even better is when your ecoing and you have no armour. You might as well type kill in console if that happens. It may be alright for pubs but not when your in a match and DEFINATLY not when your playing for money. Yeh sure your argument against this would be for teams to develop strats so they dont get stuck but why should they, they didnt have to for the past god knows how many versions. This again takes thr element of skill from the game since all the ct's have to do is shoot a barrel in the way of those t's and wait for them to get stuck...this again proves the point that source requires less skill which leads to a more noob friendly game...

Most of the arguments i hear from source lovers are that the graphics in normal CS is outdated blah blah blah and i do admit that 1.6 is a bit random which is fixed in source but overall i believe in a game like CS where gameplay is the most important aspect, graphics doesnt really count for much. And with source gameplay is all messed up and is more noob friendly. They even removed walling, what next? shotgun with a scope? grenade launcher? nuke?? i feel sorry for valve for picking source as their main game...gg to ESWC and WEG for chosing 1.6 there the ones that will eventually come out on top...only 18 confirmed teams for the CPL at the moment, registeration has been open for a week or so....usually it only takes 1 maybe 2 days to fill all 128 spots...

At the end of the day i believe source will get better, it has to, or else its just gonna cost Valve money. But i dont believe that we will see the good old counter strike of the previous versions. And with more noobs playing the game day by day CS is gonna die a horrible death within a few years.

Flufball
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 14:53
Good Old counterstrike being up to beta 6's

Beta 7.0 onwards was absolute shite, and always has been.

As for bots, can we PLEASE stop using them on the server, I'm getting fed up with spammed bots everywhere....

One Armed Scissor
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 14:56
bots rock, id like you to badmouth bots when tim's around

GuardianAnge1
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 15:01
Good Old counterstrike being up to beta 6's

Beta 7.0 onwards was absolute shite, and always has been.

totally agree. Once it started to become HUGE and people saw all the money in it it became worse and worse

Flufball
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 15:30
Nah, people wise it was terrible from anything after the eaaarly betas, but the builds they put into 7.0 and onwards where absolute shite. (Removeable silancer, pffft gimme permant silance+scope typlease)

InsanE
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 18:11
bots are good yes. but for what? Bots come in handy when you have no internet connection or if trying a new config etc etc. it wont help you get better because they lack the commen sense of humans. Also why play with bots when you can just join a server?

InsanE
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 18:14
Nah, people wise it was terrible from anything after the eaaarly betas, but the builds they put into 7.0 and onwards where absolute shite. (Removeable silancer, pffft gimme permant silance+scope typlease)my favorite version is beta 5.2 <3 the AK recoil...also for some reason i like the m4 that we have now its just feels more authentic but i hate the m4 in source it has to be the ugliest thing ever....its so short and fat...

Also you gotta love the way where you would just randomly fall through the floor in the early versions...good ol' days :)

BTW: flufball your bday is only 2 days after mine..pretty random but i found it interesting :rolleyes:

Flufball
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 18:31
My birthday is? How cunning :p

Vasquez
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 18:37
CJ's M4 model for source rocks so much ass.

oh, and riot shields 4 t3h lose!

Fusion
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 18:50
CS:S is going to be the choice for pro leagues and here's why (http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/features/1111/).

InsanE
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 19:01
i read that article a while back...if you've noticed half the article is about sponorships and how if we want to keep the sponsorships we must move on. Fine whatever. But if im not mistaken cs 1.6 already has a hella of alot of sponsors cpl has been sponsored by Nvidia for a long time. The only reason source came is because of money. Big name companies want the money and so does valve. That article in no way proves that source is better than 1.6 or any other version. It just says that it opens up ways for new sponsors which we already have. Source is just a scam to get more money simple as and its still a pretty crap game. End of.


Some people dont have an endless supply of money to move on to source. The reason source came out was so that people would upgrade their hardware. In cs 1.6 you could run at 100fps with a pentium 3 and geforce mx. But now anything less than a ati 9600 or a fx5900 your gonna get less than 60fps which i believe isn't enough.

and here is why source shouldnt be used in any leagues http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/features/1088/ enjoy...

At the end of the only thing that article proved to me was that we will eventually get more sponsors with source. I doubt that will happen if pro clans decide not to play it and if most of the cs community who has enough knowledge about cs and isn't decieved by the graphics dont play either then who are they to sponsor?

Flufball
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 19:06
I get 40-60 FPS, which suprisingly is enough, apart from when chatue gets spammed to fook with grenades.

InsanE
Thursday, 20th January 2005, 19:13
i dunno it may be a psycological thing but fps less than 60 doesnt feel right for me. Also the higher your crosshair is the faster your x-hair will get smaller.