World of Tanks

[Gunhead]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/02/17/tanks-not-like-orks-world-of-tanks/#more-25548

TANKS! Fuck yeah!

Renegade Legion player ID's
[Forum name] - [WoT name]

Bonaficus - Bonaficus
Gunhead - Gunhead
leanmeankillingmachine - leanmeanmachine
Ludicrouse - Ludi
Maurgrim - Sepphelm
Onikiy - JinD3vil
Stokvis - Stokvis
Tapja - Kriesha
Volw - Volw
Xary - Xary

[Hovis]

Shameless ripoff of the Global Agenda 'No Elves' trailer, but the world does need more tanks.

[OniKiy]

I was quite shocked to see a Tank MMO. But if it plays half way decently this may well be a great idea. :P

[Volw]

It's not an mmo tho.

[Gunhead]

I peg to differ, Volw me old fruit:
World of Tanks is a team-based massively multiplayer online action game dedicated to armored warfare.
http://www.worldoftanks.com/game/

[Ludicrouse]

I saw the trailer yesterday. Did indeed pique my curiousity, it is F2P too.

[Hovis]

MMO has lost it's meaning pretty much. Persistent characters are the norm for almost every game and the majority of MMOs are so heavily instanced that you won't find anything massive about the number of players in a zone. When they say MMO it could mean ten a side. Or it could mean 200+. We'll have to see.

[Maurgrim]

Intense battles with up to 60 combat vehicles unfold on enormous and detailed battlefields featuring a variety of terrain from open fields with hills and forests to deserts and industrial zones.

[Hovis]

60? MMO my arse.

[Ardesco de la Furia]

60? MMO my arse.
Get a smaller arse.

[Hovis]

Get a smaller arse.

Never!

[JojoTheSlayer]

Its probably a "mmo" similar to Global Agenda with something like there persistent hex map.

[OniKiy]

I found this on games to look out for 2010 was pretty sure this was the same Tank MMO.

http://tankace.gamescampus.com/

Perhaps it's some thing similar?

[JojoTheSlayer]

I found this on games to look out for 2010 was pretty sure this was the same Tank MMO.

http://tankace.gamescampus.com/

Perhaps it's some thing similar?

LoL, the game looks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKKMAlwixTs&feature=player_embedded) shit.
The tank game in Tron seems better.

[Daymare]

I thought it looked ok:s

[Hovis]

Hitpoints? In a tank game? Gay.

[OniKiy]

Hitpoints? In a tank game? Gay.

No matter the game, there will be hit points. After all games are all just mathematical constructs. If the actual damage being displayed is a problem thats fair enough. But it's the same regardless.

[Tapja]

Hitpoints? In a tank game? Gay.

*cough*Planetside*cough*

[Bagpuss]

Never!

admitting he's the biggest arse on the forums....


/insert_new-Witty_comment_here

[Roberto]

Hi! I've just discovered your forum.

i live in russia and there's already a CBT going on in world of Tanks (i'm taking part in it). i think it's quite fun to play MMO and fight with tanks. It looks like FPS on a tank. and there are ussr and german tanks right now available for testing. I'm free to answer your questions if you have some. Here's some screenshots from the official gamesite http://worldoftanks.com/gallery/screenshots/1

[Hovis]

No matter the game, there will be hit points. After all games are all just mathematical constructs. If the actual damage being displayed is a problem thats fair enough. But it's the same regardless.

A reasonably good simulator shouldn't need anything as crude as hitpoints and it wouldn't need to be a complex game either. Certainly shouldn't have to look as obvious as big numbers flying off when you shoot something. Looks as bad as STO.

[OniKiy]

Red Orchestra being one the best WW2 games and tank games is still a simple hit point system. They may add a lot more areas and values. But ultimatly it's the same. Discounting one system for displaying the damage is a bit like discounting a woman who flaunts her assets.

[Hovis]

Red Orchestra being one the best WW2 games and tank games is still a simple hit point system. They may add a lot more areas and values. But ultimatly it's the same. Discounting one system for displaying the damage is a bit like discounting a woman who flaunts her assets.

Nah it's discounting her for looking like shit.

[Ludicrouse]

Silly Oni!

Using women as an example when making Hovis look like a tit is pointless. He has as much knowledge of the fairer sex as he does of MMO gaming!

[Hovis]

Silly Oni!

Using women as an example when making Hovis look like a tit is pointless. He has as much knowledge of the fairer sex as he does of MMO gaming!

So a wider variety than you, but less time spent on the ugly ones that everybody else had a go on. :cool:

[Ludicrouse]

So a wider variety than you, but less time spent on the ugly ones that everybody else had a go on. :cool:

You would not have the patience to last past the first date. You would get all whiney if you managed a second. It would be all "Oh this is fail, there is too high a ratio between Grind and Win!" and "Do you have any Hitpoints?".

[Hovis]

You would not have the patience to last past the first date. You would get all whiney if you managed a second. It would be all "Oh this is fail, there is too high a ratio between Grind and Win!" and "Do you have any Hitpoints?".

Better than just hitting it because your mates have. :D

Either way, returning to the subject at hand, fail MMO is fail. Unless it isn't. And we won't know til somebody has played it. All the omens point to crap though. I mean best case scenario it's better than WW2OL, Aces High, Red Orchestra and Planetside in the field of tank combat, but since it offers nothing else what's the point? Tanks without infantry and planes is like pie without filling.

[Ludicrouse]

Better than just hitting it because your mates have. :D


Fail again, i have no friends because im Ginger. You tit! :shinner:

[Hovis]

Fail again, i have no friends because im Ginger. You tit! :shinner:

I missed a sitter there. :(

[JojoTheSlayer]

I thought it looked ok:s

Practicing with lower standards for your first entry in creating some low budget game Daymare? :D jk

Red Orchestra being one the best WW2 games and tank games is still a simple hit point system. They may add a lot more areas and values. But ultimately it's the same. Discounting one system for displaying the damage is a bit like discounting a woman who flaunts her assets.

Darkest hour beta 3.0 is way better than RO vanilla in regards to tank realism.
Its not perfect though. You can take out most (aka, not all) tanks with enough shots and in regards to kinetic weapons some heavy tanks can even survive fire from very short range, but overall its pretty realistic by now... Oh and theres a new version in the works, I think.


Hi! I've just discovered your forum.

i live in russia and ....

Well, at least youre not one of those first posters that are only out to offer penis enlargement or similar. LoL

[Guerra12]

I've just checked it out! Looks epic, if this is like Navyfield but with tanks, i'd totally play it

[Wolfen]

If its with Orks as well? not gonna play that if that has anything in common with orks.

[Guerra12]

Nooo way! Sick of orks and elves already. Heard it's free-to-play, so I guess it won't hurt to try it

[Roberto]

German tanks tree as available at the official website http://worldoftanks.com/gallery/art/1

[Rebel]

German tanks tree as available at the official website http://worldoftanks.com/gallery/art/1

Welcome to the boards

Cheers for all the info fella, you normally have to get it all in on the first page before a cat fight breaks out like you witnessed on page 2, 3 ,4...etc

[OniKiy]

Welcome to the boards

Cheers for all the info fella, you normally have to get it all in on the first page before a cat fight breaks out like you witnessed on page 2, 3 ,4...etc

You are ofc assuming people bother to read the first page and don't just skip ahead to the cat fight. :P

[Mero]

You are ofc assuming people bother to read the first page and don't just skip ahead to the cat fight. :P

i allways read all pages for amusement :p

as hovis said tanks without infantry and planes is gay i fail to see how a tank MMO with only tanks gonna succeed in any way

[Mero]

hmmm maybe something along the lines of AutoAssault?

[OniKiy]

You only need infantry if you have infantry dug in. You only need planes if you have planes to fight or some thing to bomb. Tanks vs Tanks is a decent enough concept. With the right balance of players and enviroment it could be a fun game to play.

Long as it isn't a dice/roll like game similar to Auto Assault, then it has potential.

[Rebel]

I've not really had much to do with anything like Mechwarrior etc but isnt it a similar concept on the basis of 1 guy in a 'machine' killing other guys in other machines - and with the reactions of some people on these boards regarding MW im sure it has potential

disclaimer - before you fanboi's flame stick me with 'how can you compare tanks to Mech's etc it was the fundamental concept i was getting at, not a Tank vs Mech debate!

[OniKiy]

I've not really had much to do with anything like Mechwarrior etc but isnt it a similar concept on the basis of 1 guy in a 'machine' killing other guys in other machines - and with the reactions of some people on these boards regarding MW im sure it has potential

disclaimer - before you fanboi's flame stick me with 'how can you compare tanks to Mech's etc it was the fundamental concept i was getting at, not a Tank vs Mech debate!

You're so screwed when the fanboi's read that with their morning coffee. :P

But yeah, the basic tank vs tank is a good thing. While not as versatile or as varied as Mechs the tanks are around the period when they were the most intresting. At least in my opinion that was the case, more so when you think about how quickly tank warfare and tacticts were thrown up.

[Hovis]

I think we can rule it out as a tank sim, so actual tactics won't matter.

[Gunhead]

I think we can rule it out as a tank sim, so actual tactics won't matter.

Based on what? That it's not Steel Beasts Pro?

[Hovis]

Based on what? That it's not Steel Beasts Pro?

Based on the video that shows that when you shoot things big numbers fly off the top of them. Bit of an immersion killer to say the least.

[Gunhead]

Based on the video that shows that when you shoot things big numbers fly off the top of them. Bit of an immersion killer to say the least.

Can't argue with that. However that video Jojo posted was "Tank Ace" which is not the same game as "World of Tanks".

Here's a couple gameplay videos from the game in question (World of Tanks, not Tank Ace ;0 ):

OB6FG8uKYbs

iGozEPQ5aUE

[Hovis]

Looks better, but it's again not much of a sim. Key thing is that the tanks move and fire. I've tried to aim the gun on a moving tank before, going over grass and mud, and this was a Challenger 2, it's insanely hard. And that's a much bigger tank with a stabilised gun. They are not a smooth ride. Also 3rd person view is lame. So take away the fact that the tanks have this huge and sweeping artificial field of view and the fact that they shoot on the move and yeah, maybe it'd be realistic after that.

Ultimately though guys peering through letter-box sized windows having to almost park to fire accurately does not make for a game that I'd want to play either, so it certainly looks a bit more promising.

[Roberto]

And here comes the Soviet tank tree :) http://worldoftanks.com/media/gallery/default/soviet_tree.jpg

[Maurgrim]

http://www.onrpg.com/MMO/event/World-of-Tanks-Closed-Beta-Key-Give-Away

Come on in and join the fun, it's a blast :)

Edit: Brains required, must be why I suck at it :shinner:

[Athelas]

u can get keys from shattered crystal as well

http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/index.php/world_of_tanks

[Athelas]

duno if anyone is playing tis but please pm me if you are, got a clan goin with my old half life/eve buddies. If intesterested just gimme a shout :)

fun game, really enjoying it, even though its only beta atm and all u can go is a few set maps

[Maurgrim]

Playing as Sepphelm, think I just ran into you in a game :D

[Athelas]

i remember seeing that name!

Im Athelas in game, i'll be going back to KIASauron once game hits for real. If you'll be playing it after beta, gimmie a shout and ill get u in kia :)

[EvilNookiEPoring]

MrPoring ingame.. Only tooting a T-28 and a SU-whatever tankdestroyer..
Love it really.. Was going arty to begin with but it's a dead branch on the tree.
TD and heavy tanks the way to go :D


*EDIT* on a side note I love my spam-loving douchebag title I have atm.. Didn't realize it before.. Had that as a custom title on outcasters board before they banned me ;P

[Athelas]

proper addictive game ad the mmo side isnt even really out yet, cant believe ive been playing it so much this weekend even though its only beta :D

[Hovis]

Given that it's Russian are the cheats built in or do you pay extra for them or what?

[Ardesco de la Furia]

Given that it's Russian are the cheats built in or do you pay extra for them or what?
Aww its a troll. He's so cute!

On that note try it before you slag it. :cool:

[OniKiy]

It's pretty fun, enjoying the way light tanks are forcing people to learn actual tacticts. Like ambushing and rushes with larger numbers. Only issue so far is lacking tacticts via group play. Only solo atm so it's a little dull trying to play off other peoples moves.

[Athelas]

there's about 20 KIA atm on at any given time, since its only beta we are using the 3 - 2 - 1 - JOIN! tactic on TS

Tiger is a bit of a joke, the repair cost are more than the winnings........ thats if u actually win! So im stuck till i get enough gold to turn the account premium...

[Maurgrim]

Haha we use the same tactic to join games :)

Yeah the Tiger I is a bit of a joke. From Tiger I on you need a premium account to actually gain money and it gets critted way too often, which is a bug. Hopefully it's adressed in the next patch.

[Athelas]

yeah they are guna address it so ive heard, that and the madness with catching fire/ammo racks going up every frecking first shot on you

I really wish i hadnt sold my VK3001(H) though

[Maurgrim]

Yeah, exactly. It really is silly. I managed to oneshot Tigers on multiple occassions now because of ammoracks going boom and I really shouldn't be able to do that.

I'm gonna hold onto my VK3601(H) for sure to make some money without premium :)

[Ardesco de la Furia]

My cohorts from SHC have been Teamkilling KIAEddz and crew. :shinner:

[EvilNookiEPoring]

Tiger cost is silly?
I met a maus the other day.. He was the only one left and was camping their flag.
We had a jagdpanther and 2-3 other mediums on him and me in my small su-76.
We barely dinged him.. Got him down to 93% before he got bored and killed everyone. Repair costs on that one was the lovely bit :P 27k to repair it...

[Hovis]

So how does this game actually play then? By that I mean what is the format for battles, do you basically join a match, then match begins, game played, match ends, XP awarded etc, bit like Navyfield, or is it more like Planetside in that there's an open world?

Inquiring minds want to know. And so do I. :D

[Maurgrim]

Like Navyfield.

[Athelas]

Tiger cost is silly?
I met a maus the other day.. He was the only one left and was camping their flag.
We had a jagdpanther and 2-3 other mediums on him and me in my small su-76.
We barely dinged him.. Got him down to 93% before he got bored and killed everyone. Repair costs on that one was the lovely bit :P 27k to repair it...

Ill prob make money when the tiger is upgraded, i just dont have any money to upgrade it now! :D

lol yeah KIA guys tend to get team killed, we all turn on the guy doing it though which is funny

[Hovis]

So this is more of a persistent shooter than an MMO then? That sounds worth a sniff, I'm liking games like that (APB works on a similar principle) because it's less of a timesink than a regular MMO.

[Athelas]

this kicks APB's ass aparently, all the KIA lot have stopped playing it to play tanks

dont be put off by ur first tank though, its a pile of shit :)

[Ardesco de la Furia]

Its 14 vs 14 matches on random maps atm, Hovis. Eventually teamplay and territorial gameplay will be added.

[Hovis]

Anybody know where I can get a beta hookup?

[Lyngs]

Anybody know where I can get a beta hookup?

I got mine from fileplanet, a few weeks ago tho.

[Hovis]

Have got, am going to war. :D

[OniKiy]

Shattered Crystal are giving them out. Bought Plex through them so they're good far in as I have experianced. There is no cost to getting it, tho you order it like you're buying it. It'll show up as $0 and for first time accounts they do call up to confirm it's you (which is handy). Oh and Hovis, we'll need to tank it up on TS or vent. :P

[Athelas]

i got mine from shattered also :)

[Hovis]

You guys were not kidding about the shittiness of the starter tank. :(

[OniKiy]

The small russian tank can be upgraded to a field gun. Seen some people get kills via it's penetration. But otherwise I'd use the German tractor, and leech off other peoples work. That or ambush people and run away, a lot.

Just be wary of the BT-2's. They can move and get behind your lines v fast.

[Hovis]

I'm trying to get to a T-34. Seems a long way off. :(

[Ardesco de la Furia]

I'm trying to get to a T-34. Seems a long way off. :(
Its rape in a can.

[Athelas]

i knocked up a wiki for KIA, it has some useful information :)

http://kiawot.wikispaces.com/

russian own for speed tanking and generally most things, it is still beta though. They are tinkering with heavies and a few other things

there is normally about 10-30 KIA on so just jump on the ts on that site :)

[EvilNookiEPoring]

When playing pug recruit matches I absolutely love the MS-1 though.. Use HE ammo and you can critkill just about anything with a good hit. Just top speed and don't ever slow down! It outturns BT-2's so once you get close to them you can circle them :)

[Mero]

anyone playing still? i do, even thought game is slowpaced as fuuuuuck

[Tapja]

anyone playing still? i do, even thought game is slowpaced as fuuuuuck

Wrong tanks then :)

[Athelas]

yeah i play, KIASauron. Game is going live soon too. I havent pld that much since the x5 experience after they bought the european servers back

ive got a shed load of tanks im guna have to grind all over :D IS-7, T29, JagTiger, Panther, tier 5 US arty, etc, etc

[Mero]

shit mike i sense some moniez spent into the game =)
i can't do shit with my basic account, 500gold is roughly 2 euros

and yes tapja my tanks are shit leichetraktor(or whatthefuckever) is my shit
okay athelas gonna add you right now!!!

PS fucking hope there aint EU/US/RU servers and everything is mutual

[Mero]

hahahaaa judging from nick you are driving a fucking KIA, mike?

[Tapja]

shit mike i sense some moniez spent into the game =)
i can't do shit with my basic account, 500gold is roughly 2 euros

and yes tapja my tanks are shit leichetraktor(or whatthefuckever) is my shit
okay athelas gonna add you right now!!!

PS fucking hope there aint EU/US/RU servers and everything is mutual

EU closed beta, you got 150g every day, for free. Over christmas period we got 500g per day, now we get 250g until release. So no monies spent yet :)

[Athelas]

There is also a russian client that you have to pay to get gold as its live and there is a Euro/US client thats still getting free gold as its beta as Tapja said :)

which one u running mero?

Im on the Euro servers too as u can pick to be on either US or Euro. As Russians are paying and its made by Russians they get all the good stuff first. Think they are getting the Clan wars very soon and KIA is the guild im in, an old half life bunch i know

[Mero]

russian client here but since its 0.6.4. version i guess game still in beta?
anyway i found added you in contacts ath =), my nick is Royalkir

yeah u can buy golds for silly prices, roughly 1usd=250gold

[Athelas]

You'll have found the pap account i made on the Russian client to have a lookie when i first started playing, my main is on the Euro servers.

I dont even have the russian client installed any more :(

[Mero]

You'll have found the pap account i made on the Russian client to have a lookie when i first started playing, my main is on the Euro servers.

I dont even have the russian client installed any more :(


awwww only solution is for you to learn to understand the russkies =)

[Mero]

really really enjoying game 8))))
i have a howitzer armored tank, awesum support, it hits nearly over whole map
feels like CS with awp

[OniKiy]

Anyone up for a night of playing WoT? Just to see how well we can play tactically, and feck some people up?

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Have just started playing this and its not bad, anyone else still playing ?

[Gunhead]

At least Maur and Ludi occasionally afaik.

[Ludicrouse]

I do dabble in the Hetzer arts!

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Slowly becoming addicted to this game, if you see me on TS give me a shout if you fancy a game. I will be mincing around as leanmeanmachine in my premier T-14 pissing off everyone on chat who whinges when i take out someone whos spent months grinding up the lvls and Ive spent a day doing it.

[Maurgrim]

Currently grinding up Medium Russian tanks, Medium American tanks, German tankdestroyers and Russian tankdestroyers. :D

[OniKiy]

Need to restart apparently, but I'll be up for working up to SPG again. Hummels are good fun. :P

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Is there a clan or guild of somesort ?

[Gunhead]

Gave it a go as Maur's been painting the game wonderful over TS. Indeed good fun in nice compact servings. Getting my arse handed to me in the starter Leichtetractor and not once so far getting the least bit annoyed is a sign of a pretty good game.

PS. 8 games, 5 kills to 7 deaths in the basic tincan - pretty positively surprised, seems more of a thinking man's shooter than your average ADHD twitch hell.

[Maurgrim]

Wait until you hit tier IV Gun, that's dragging on for a bit in almost every tank/class. Underarmored, undergunned, and matched up against tier 5-7 at times. All they have going for them is speed (unless you're a SPG or a TD).
Luckily they are going to fix the matchmaking in the next patch, which should arrive soon(ish). Also adding the American TD line in that patch.
If you want someone to platoon with (lowest tier I have is IV right now) add me as a friend. Name's Sepphelm on WoT.

[Stokvis]

Installing it atm, will give it a go aswell. :D

[Ludicrouse]

Would possibly be a good idea to post up your names.

Mine is Ludi.

Current Tank list:

KV
Hetzer
Marder II (Elite)
Panzer III A (Elite)

[Maurgrim]

Sepphelm

- T34 (Tier V)
- SU85B (Tier IV)
- Stug III (Tier V)
- M4A3E8 Sherman (Tier VI)

Have a premium account (+50% exp and credits), so I can form platoons.

[leanmeankillingmachine]

leanmeanmachine
T-14

[Stokvis]

Stokvis, but you might have guessed that. ^^

[Gunhead]

Shockingly: Gunhead

[Maurgrim]

Does it need to be that offensive Gun? :mad:

[Stokvis]

Reported, Maur. ;)

Been playing it for 2 hours now... and I really like it!

[Xary]

Name there is: Xary

[Ludicrouse]

I now have a KV, which bog-standard is fucking wank, saving up for Suspension and the 122mm until i can get the 107mm.

[Bonaficus]

I'm playing as well : Bonaficus

[Volw]

Volw

[Ludicrouse]

I have created an ingame Chat Channel - Renegade Legion - Password is same as TS.

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Teamed up with Ludi yesterday and although his gingerness oozing through my headset was a bit sickening, was surprised just how much a little co-ordination makes a difference to the enjoyment of the game - be good to see a few more RL on there.

[Stokvis]

Idd, Lean. Xary and I teamed up yesterday as well and all of a sudden we started to win matches. So we'll be busy leveling to decent tanks and will join you guys for some platoon matches. :D

[Ludicrouse]

Teamed up with Ludi yesterday and although his gingerness oozing through my headset was a bit sickening, was surprised just how much a little co-ordination makes a difference to the enjoyment of the game - be good to see a few more RL on there.

I agree, it was so much fun getting you to drive into enemies to stop them escaping. Although taking hits for you sucked Haha.

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Idd, Lean. Xary and I teamed up yesterday as well and all of a sudden we started to win matches. So we'll be busy leveling to decent tanks and will join you guys for some platoon matches. :D

Hurry up, my missus is threatening me with decorating soon, she already pissed herself with laughter when she caught me yesterday on WoT talking to Ludi and doesnt seem to agree with me that a few hours of playing games is a worthwhile way to spend spare time. Or just buy a premium tank, there is no shame in it....

I agree, it was so much fun getting you to drive into enemies to stop them escaping. Although taking hits for you sucked Haha.

Just work a bit more on your tactics ginge, I noticed that the only game we won was after you wiped, and my idea was to charge forward and shoot stuff in the face.

[Ludicrouse]

You mean the game where i told you when to hide and when to fight, after taking an arty shell meant for you?

[leanmeankillingmachine]

The shell was probably for you anyway, your ginger hair or the smell of foxes piss acting as a magnet for enemy and friendly fire alike.

[Gunhead]

Or just buy a premium tank, there is no shame in it....

Was actually planning on doing that, me. :o

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Nowt wrong with it Gun, its a free to play game and by paying cash you are doing your part to help keep it running. Besides all the premium tank does for you is save you cash on repairs and makes it easier when you have to grind out the xp anyway to get a better tank when you can.

Also saves those ridiculous few first tiers of tank when you have to play games with noone who knows what they are doing except for the one guy who thinks he does and lets everyone know it by screaming noobs on chat.

[Gunhead]

Nowt wrong with it Gun, its a free to play game and by paying cash you are doing your part to help keep it running.

Yer true and don't see any probs on spending money on something you enjoy. That and i don't have that much time to play in general nowadays.

[Volw]

Love the game.

Altho matchmaking is quite puzzling. My tier 3 TD is regularly pitched against T7 tanks... which in turn made me master mobility killing the **** and sniping off his front/rear bits sticking out while hiding behind cover :D

Edit: Must be really annoying for people, when I proceed to take 5% HP with each shot! ;-)

[Stokvis]

except for the one guy who thinks he does and lets everyone know it by screaming noobs on chat.

Like the standard WoW BG? :D

[Ludicrouse]

Lol, does help if you learn to play before getting a premium tank!

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Lol, does help if you learn to play before getting a premium tank!

Bollocks ginge, you always learn hard lessons you never forget if you just skip the boring starter lvls on any game and jump straight in against more experienced players. Only pick up bad habits and tactics from playing with guys new to the game.

Besides the prem tanks atleast lets you start off with all the mods on the tank researched so you can use your experience to bang through the tech tree pretty quick and not worry about grinding tank to tank wishing you had the bigger gun on it or better armour. Think at the end of my first day of playing I had already lvled up to get the T1 Heavy.

Should add if you play sensibly the prem tanks arent actually a bad bit of kit - beats shooting light tanks when you can just jump in and shoot the bigger boys and have a chance at winning.

You go Gun, get the prem.

[Ludicrouse]

Nothing wrong with the Premium Tanks, never said anything against them. However, unless you actually learn the game and how to out-think your opponent then you are just wasting the Gold.

Initially you should play up to T3-4 to get a real sense of the game and how it works. This is also a good thing as when you reach T3 and T4 you will get up to a point where you have played against KV's and the odd Panzer IV and now know that rushing ahead is going to get you dead.

[OniKiy]

Had fun last night, or should I say this morning? :P

Me and Bag ended up raining down death with some SPG goodness. Though a few times we got over run by enemys. Was a good laugh either way. Now to get 15k Research for the next one. :)

Edit: Oh and I am JinD3vil on there.

[Stokvis]

I enjoy playing SPG's aswell... and I only have that slow asss russian 18 thingy. Can't wait to get my hands on the next one with a 105mm howitzer. :D

[Tapja]

I possibly spent too much time on it when it was in beta. Had a load of fun playing with a few friends - a nice platoon really helps, even a few people on the same wavelength can make a huge impact on the match.

Going by the name Kriesha.

Oh, and if someone would be so kind as to pm me with the TS password :)

[Maurgrim]

Well that's easy, just resub to WoW and get it from the guildinfo. :D

[Tapja]

Well that's easy, just resub to WoW and get it from the guildinfo. :D

Or I can just ask on these forums here and some kind person is sure to answer me, like you just did :shinner:

[Maurgrim]

Don't destroy the illusion of my well cultivated dislike for anything without boobs! :mad:

[Ludicrouse]

Wish i was at home with my KV.

[Ludicrouse]

Did Sean actually start enjoying himself when he stopped using the Loltraktor then? :shinner:

[The5th]

Can someone please edit the post at the beginning with everyones details and the basics to get started, ie In game chat etc.
Just save me going through all 14+ pages trying to get the info. thanks ;)

Ok where do i start? Is RL playing as one faction? or can you have any tank?

Seems like a nice game but i need a helping hand.

[Ludicrouse]

No factions. You can use any tank. Don't rush. ;)

[The5th]

when you guys getting on? i'm having to learn the hard way!

[Ludicrouse]

When im home from work :o

[The5th]

my level 1 tanks sucks lol, is there anyway to train the crew up to be better? and how do you spot enemy tanks? only when they move?

[OniKiy]

Crew can be trained when you complete all research on that tank, it'll go into Elite status. Then you'll get a check box saying "Convert XP into crew training". I am sure they also increase while in battle, but I haven't bothered to see by how much. But I also think they can be trained by sending them to the barracks, but I have never done so. Enemy tanks are spotted when inside visual range of your tank, early tanks have very low visual range due to the restricted viewing slots and lack of sigts/scopes. The chance to see enemys also varies depending on your tank and crew (higher level of crew the better they are at their job). So long as they are out of cover and they are not in camo they are relatively easy to spot. A nice touch is that the radios allow tanks to share information within a radius set by the one you have equipped. It'll allow you to spot enemys and relay it back to friendly tanks and vice versa within your radius, so long as the tanks are in each others radius.

First tier tanks are bad, but they allow you to see the benifits of research and team work. In a platoon and with the premium account, it won't take lone to get into SPG/Tank Destroy/Light Tanks and you'll also have a basic grasp of the menus and game play. It'll also allow you to make informed choices when selecting a path through the tech tree for the first time.

[Ludicrouse]

I should be about in a hour and a half.

[Naarrr]

get back to work you!

[The5th]

just started a fight with no ammo......

[Volw]

Even tho I'm in T4 and soon T5, I'm still enjoying an occasional T1/T2 battle. No artillery, matchmaking seems to work well and there isn't that much camping around.

[Gunhead]

Can someone please edit the post at the beginning with everyones details and the basics to get started, ie In game chat etc.
Just save me going through all 14+ pages trying to get the info. thanks ;)

So i'll have to do it for you? Git... Done and done, didn't add anyone's id's from beta as don't know if they're playing or have still the same name.

[The5th]

Thanks Gun your a real tanker... ;). And whats with the crazy match making when you move highter tiers?

[Maurgrim]

At the moment platoons are placed in higher tier fights, should be fixed with the next patch.

[The5th]

I really hope so as currently I'm enjoying playing my tier 2 tank much more than any of my higher tier tanks!
Been making more money and exp as well!

[Maurgrim]

Patch is coming next week. :)

[Stokvis]

I took the liberty of creating a Renegade Legion clan in WoT.

I've sent every renegade known to me playing this an invite for the clan.

You can accept it by going to www.worldoftanks.eu , log in and click my profile. There will be an invitation link in the upper right corner.

Since the RL tag was taken I've named it 284th.

If you are in RL and haven't got an invitation and do want one please post your ingame name here.

[Gunhead]

Nice one Stok! Joined now.

[SilverWolfCezar]

yeha like it enough .. in game name SilverWolfCezar .... inv

[leanmeankillingmachine]

Aye nice one, joined too. Just need to find out how i can get into game without getting pestered to do something by friends or family every five minutes

[Xary]

SilverWolfCezar you have an invite

I took the liberty of creating a Renegade Legion clan in WoT.

I've sent every renegade known to me playing this an invite for the clan.

You can accept it by going to www.worldoftanks.eu , log in and click my profile. There will be an invitation link in the upper right corner.

[Gunhead]

Aye nice one, joined too. Just need to find out how i can get into game without getting pestered to do something by friends or family every five minutes

...now that you mentioned it: could you please craft me a Hetzer's bayful of high explosive shells of the monkey? TA! Very much appreciated Mark me old bean!

[Ludicrouse]

...now that you mentioned it: could you please craft me a Hetzer's bayful of high explosive shells of the monkey? TA! Very much appreciated Mark me old bean!

Unless you are using the Hetzer Derpgun then you should be using [Armour-Piercing Shell of Infinate Terror]. :shinner:

[Bagpuss]

Rapidly getting seriously fucked off with this ....

Russian tanks, especially the indestrefuckingductable, fasterthatalight, bigergunthanafuckinghowitzer, KV's ... seriously these fucking things need nerfing hard.

3xTD hitting one earlier .... not a single hit, no damage removed, he sat there laughing until he capped ... not a fucking thing we could do about it.

Next up the matching system .... should no way in hell place someone who isnt grouped in his t2/t3 tank in with a full set of t8 .... waste of time, you cant even scratch the fucking things.

Unless this new patch resolves some of the glaringly obvious design and balancing flaws this is going to die hard and be resigned to another mmo that could of been so good if the designers hadnt been complete fuckwits and whilst they were busy patting themselves on the back about a release product .. joe soap was pulling it apart and dicovered these guys haveny actually got a fucking clue.

[Stokvis]

Rapidly getting seriously fucked off with this ....

Russian tanks, especially the indestrefuckingductable, fasterthatalight, bigergunthanafuckinghowitzer, KV's ... seriously these fucking things need nerfing hard.

3xTD hitting one earlier .... not a single hit, no damage removed, he sat there laughing until he capped ... not a fucking thing we could do about it.

Next up the matching system .... should no way in hell place someone who isnt grouped in his t2/t3 tank in with a full set of t8 .... waste of time, you cant even scratch the fucking things.

Unless this new patch resolves some of the glaringly obvious design and balancing flaws this is going to die hard and be resigned to another mmo that could of been so good if the designers hadnt been complete fuckwits and whilst they were busy patting themselves on the back about a release product .. joe soap was pulling it apart and dicovered these guys haveny actually got a fucking clue.

Been playing without soothing Ludi again, Sean? :D

BTW, try playing an M3 Lee... then you know you hit imbalance rock bottom.

[Bagpuss]

Nope been working through the mt and td trees. All I'm seeing atm is everyone switching to the op Russian pos.

When tank destroyers are tank ticklers there's something wrong.

[Stokvis]

Got an S-85B atm... only way to punch a hole in a tank is by hitting them on the side, shooting an 85 mm. :( Found out that against heavy armored tanks sometimes the HE shells perform better.

[Maurgrim]

To be fair, I wouldn't recommend playing the medium tank lines to people that are new to the game. It can get frustrating very, very quickly.

And TDs get ranked higher than their tier, just like artillery.

Also the game was buggy like shit yesterday, dunno how they managed, but people ran into invisible walls, shots hit the ground just in front of the tank even if you aimed at the sky and shots that were dead on target didn't even hit the enemy tank.

Let's just hope that the patch today fixes those things.

[Gunhead]

Itsa pretty long downtime, hopefully they'll fix the recent issues. But yea the match-up system seems quite wank at the moment, as Sean said it can get pretty frustrating going into fights match after match where the only thing you can harm is artillery and that from behind only as well...

[Gunhead]

0.6.4 patch notes for the lazy (http://game.worldoftanks.com/in_development)

[Ludicrouse]

I jave a KV. Except for the gun, your talking rubbish. Yes they are tough, heavy yanks are even yanks. Top speed is about 20kph, lights do three times that. 152mm is a **** but fires two shots a minute and is innaccurate at range. Turret is slow, large and poorly armouted.

Played right two lights can take out a KV easy. Just don't sit still and attack the front.

[Maurgrim]

Itsa pretty long downtime, hopefully they'll fix the recent issues. But yea the match-up system seems quite wank at the moment, as Sean said it can get pretty frustrating going into fights match after match where the only thing you can harm is artillery and that from behind only as well...

Let's just hope it doesn't last as long as the downtime for the russian servers did...that was a whooping 17 hours :shinner:

[Maurgrim]

Servers are up!

[Maurgrim]

Aaaaaand they added the KV 13...tier VII medium tank, 60 kph, with 100mm armor in the front, 85mm on the sides and 60mm in the rear, paired with a (researchabe) gun that has an average penetration of 144mm...dear lord... :mad:

[Ludicrouse]

Does that patch include the new tech trees, Maur? KV owners should get two new KVs a recompense. If so, whats their new stats? On my mobile so can't look.

[Maurgrim]

Nope it doesn't, they should arrive around end of June / start of July.
New vehicles are the new SPGs, the KV13, Pz38NA and the premium ones KV5 and the Löwe (which has "low" armour but proves to be able to take like 20 shots easy by tier 6-7 mediums).

But the new premium tanks cost about 30€ each :shinner:

[Ludicrouse]

Cheers Maur.

[Tapja]

Aaaaaand they added the KV 13...tier VII medium tank, 60 kph, with 100mm armor in the front, 85mm on the sides and 60mm in the rear, paired with a (researchabe) gun that has an average penetration of 144mm...dear lord... :mad:

Tier VII has T29 in US tree. It's OPness (for its tier) is only surpassed by the mighty T-54.

[Maurgrim]

T54 seems to have been hit by the nerfbat with the new armour calculations, watched two today where not a single shot got bounced by their armour. :D

EDIT:

And I don't think the T29 is that OP, just shoot at the hull and you should be good.

[Tapja]

And I don't think the T29 is that OP, just shoot at the hull and you should be good.

It's not the turret, its the gun :shinner:

[Maurgrim]

I can have that one on my T20 as well I think... :p

[Bagpuss]

review after last nights forray:

Hetzer: isnt too bad with the bigass 10.5cm gun loaded with HE ...hit the commaders ring on a turret and it one shots the target... best round with it 4 kills

Grille: with the uber cannon is a monster with a good crew .. can "reach out and touch someone" corner to corner on most maps and the splash damage is lethal ... best round 5 kills, 4 of those being one-shots.

Maps: Mountain pass sucks major ass for arty. Hardly any LOS to lob shells in.

Steppes: Arty wet dream, can hit most of the map from the flags. Very few hiding places.

Mines: mixed bag on this one as i only managed to get it twice...

[Gunhead]

Aye, Hetzer with the ten-five cheesecannon can do evil things to heavies above its tier. Just always load up fully with HE, AP is a waste of payload with that tube.

[leanmeankillingmachine]

But the new premium tanks cost about 30€ each :shinner:

Didnt go to the pub last night so used my booze budget to get the Lowe :)

[Maurgrim]

Currently driving around in a tier VII medium tank swarm (1 x T20, 2 x VK3002DB) and the Löwe is one of the rare things that can actually stop us. We can gangrape basically everything else (not gone up against tier X yet or many tier IXs). :shinner:

[Volw]

Can I has invite?

[Stokvis]

I think I did mate, but will do it again just to be sure. Invites only show on your account page on www.worldoftanks.eu .

[Volw]

Apparently when I try to log in via the page:

"Sorry, no such user found."

Fail :(

[Stokvis]

That's when you log on at www.worldoftanks.com

Log on at www.worldoftanks.eu and you're sorted mate. :D

[Volw]

Ahhh

No invite tho.


I'm in love with my M5 /w 75mm howitzer.

It can one shot other light tanks and SPGs, one/two shot TDs from sides/rear and it drives faster than HT can rotate their turrets ... which means they get nuked by friendly SPGs while trying to shoot at me. Epic.

If Stig was driving at tank, this would be it.

[Stokvis]

It says invitation already sent to that player if I reinbvite you. It should be somewhere in your "my profile"screen.

[SneakRocker]

Hey can i get an invite?

Name is SneakRocker

[Stokvis]

Done. Already thought I've seen you in a match somewhere. :D

[James24]

Just downloaded it :)

[Endangerment]

I don't understand, as soon as the round starts everybody disappears?

[Bam]

Can you toss Tzilla an invite please?

[Mero]

ah guys bummer you playing on europe servers
ive put alot of into my work (not to mention tons of rubles, fucking online shareware mmorpg, white russians really outdid this time slippery motherfuckers "applaud")

game in itself is nice ive had some great battles over the skype/ts, even dude i buy drugs from is playing it. What amazes me though is that WoT is still version 0.6.4. after i dunno how many months past release.... not being able to choose the map upon start is kinda undestandle - tank-borne infantry on a mission i supppose

by the way those that didnt know the algorytm behind side balancing is that each side has a set amount of tons. Problem is it doesnt add to the class balance or team balance its just an amount of tons

[Stokvis]

I don't understand, as soon as the round starts everybody disappears?

Had the same thing, only their shadows remain. Latest catalyst drivers solved it for me.

[Stokvis]

ah guys bummer you playing on europe servers
ive put alot of into my work (not to mention tons of rubles, fucking online shareware mmorpg, white russians really outdid this time slippery motherfuckers "applaud")

game in itself is nice ive had some great battles over the skype/ts, even dude i buy drugs from is playing it. What amazes me though is that WoT is still version 0.6.4. after i dunno how many months past release.... not being able to choose the map upon start is kinda undestandle - tank-borne infantry on a mission i supppose

by the way those that didnt know the algorytm behind side balancing is that each side has a set amount of tons. Problem is it doesnt add to the class balance or team balance its just an amount of tons

After the last patch (wich kicked in last wednesday) balancing is way better. I'm not playing against KV's with a tank with a 20mm canon anymore.

[Stokvis]

Can you toss Tzilla an invite please?

Done

PS: Just now realize I'm spamming this thread, sry.

[Mero]

After the last patch (wich kicked in last wednesday) balancing is way better. I'm not playing against KV's with a tank with a 20mm canon anymore.

Klin Voroshilov =))))


this is what ima riding at at the moment
did you get byuable tanks like kv-5 and lowe too?


kv is a fun tank despite its fucking hideous tower it moves slower then drug fiend((((


my tanks are kv and grille
i do have cherchill aswell but fuck it

[Xary]

Join us on the Eu server Mero. :D

[Stokvis]

Wondering if any of you have the same problem: Alot of times when I fire my gun I also engage full throtle forward. This is extremely annoying when in arty view and finding out you're rushing the enemy just when your reti doesn't narrow. Also happens with regular tanks and TD's.

[Endangerment]

Not had that problem and video has fixed itself magically. Can you chuck me an RL invite, I'm on as Endangerment.

I've maxed out all 3 basic tanks, what's the best way to go after that? Started on german but the names of the tanks are annoying (all look the same)

[Bonaficus]

Stok your using spacebar to stop and shoot. When you fire a shot after having pressed the spacebar it will continue driving. So stop smashing the spacebar :)

[Saltydog]

Pepercat.

Invite plox

[OniKiy]

Wondering if any of you have the same problem: Alot of times when I fire my gun I also engage full throtle forward. This is extremely annoying when in arty view and finding out you're rushing the enemy just when your reti doesn't narrow. Also happens with regular tanks and TD's.

Found it happens when trying to exceed the range of an SPG. I have moved a couple of times without pressing other buttons than LMB and Mouse wheel. Either the game moves to try and fire on a position out of range. That or some times if you haven't ensured you have fully stopped it'll continue at the same speed until you hit some thing. I haven't seen anything else to explian why, perhaps it's related to the external Arty view and how it switches out. Never happened to me in my TD.

[Stokvis]

Stok your using spacebar to stop and shoot. When you fire a shot after having pressed the spacebar it will continue driving. So stop smashing the spacebar :)

I actually do, thanks! :D

Got this from the WoT support team:
Dear Player,

May be you are using Cruise Control to move and "Space" button to stop. Try to stop vehicle using "S" button, because the "Space" button is using only for "Stop-aim-go" combination.
Best regards,
Eric McLaren


Sent invites to Salty and Danger.

[Bonaficus]

Back from holiday,

Send me in inv plz :)

[Saltydog]

I see quite some people load HE shells. Can someone explain when to use those and when not? I loaded my T3 light tank with them and saw "100%" on my enemy medium tank after 6 direct hits...

[Ironman]

You need to hit them for them to take damage. ;)

[Bagpuss]

from my understanding certain guns fair better with HE rounds in them ...

Look at the stats for the gun and specifically look at the penetration values. If the pen is low and damage is high .. fit HE. If its the opposite way around fit AP.
HE rounds will cause alot more module failures on the target tank which can potentially 1 shot stuff, or cause it to catch fire and die. HE rounds are also somewhat more useful in daft Matches where your tank & gun selection means you cannot penetrate the armour of the enemy tanks ... in this case fit HE and hope for module damage of fires.

The quick and dirty way i do it, and its probably totally wrong, is if the gun has a long barrel- fit AP, if its a short stubby affair - fit HE.

[Saltydog]

The quick and dirty way i do it, and its probably totally wrong, is if the gun has a long barrel- fit AP, if its a short stubby affair - fit HE.

:p I should fit myself with HE it seems...

[Stokvis]

I also load the >70mm guns with HE, also when they're long ones like the last gun for the T34. :D

[Ludicrouse]

If Penetration > Enemy Tanks Armour thickness then load HE.
If Penetration ='ish Enemy Tanks Armour thickness then load AP.
If Penetration < Enemy Tanks Armour thickness then load "Whine".

[Stokvis]

We'll be on vacation the next 3-4 weeks. I made Skully the clan commander so he can invite people.

[Carcass]

We'll be on vacation the next 3-4 weeks. I made Skully the clan commander so he can invite people.

Ohhh Dear!!!:D

[Xary]

Yes indeed. Enjoy it :shinner:

[Jorpmeister]

Gief invajts nouw!

[Hincey]

Get on TS Jorps someone will be able to sort you out there. Skull i think is the man your after and it was his B'day yesterday so he might be AWOL

[Jorpmeister]

I will get TS up n running tonight. Cant wait to log in again, its been while since i last loged in.

[Ironman]

I will get TS up n running tonight. Cant wait to log in again, its been while since i last loged in.
Damn I need to be on ts tonight then. :D

[Jorpmeister]

Its a date!

[Jorpmeister]

I haz problems. I haz no cheeezewbvurgerz or IP and Pass to TS... CHOP CHOP Schlags geef info!

[Hincey]

I haz problems. I haz no cheeezewbvurgerz or IP and Pass to TS... CHOP CHOP Schlags geef info!

Done

[Jorpmeister]

done

i lub u !

[Gunhead]

i lub u !

It's spelled "lube" btw.

[Adelheit]

Gave WoT a try yesterday, think i'm hooked :)

Char: Adelheit

[Maurgrim]

Patch 0.6.5 coming today! Servers should be back up by 14:00 GMT+1

World of Tanks 6.4. - 6.5 preliminary patch notes:

- Added basic US TD line: T18, T82, T40, M10 Wolverine, M36 Slugger, T25 AT, T28, T95.
- M26 Pershing replaced for M46 Patton as tier 9 US medium tank. M26 Pershing moved to tier 8. T23 US medium tank temporarily removed.
- Added premium tanks: US M22 Locust, USSR T-127.
- Added new maps: Redshire and Arctic (working title).
- Visually redesigned maps: Karelia and Erlenberg.
- Fixed bugs, stickings, impassibilities for the majority of maps.
- Fixed destruction and damage models for some objects.
- Fixed errors in vehicle models.
- Fixed credit income for M12, tier 6 US SPG (now the same as its counterparts have).
- Increased gun depression angle for T1 hvy, M6, T32, T34.
- Increased credit income for M6A2E1 by 10%.
- Fixed hitboxes for T1 hvy, M6, M6A2E1.
- Reworked protection for colour of shell tracer effects.
- Fixed discrepancy of pre-battle counter.
- Fixed description for Orlik's medal.
- Fixed crash to desktop when minimizing the game (rare).
- Fixed sound notification when observation device has been taken out.
- Fixed error when tracers and effects of shots would disappear during the loading of enemy tank models.
- Fixed display of hit spots from explosion on objects
- Fixed display of muted player (from whom voice messages are forbidden) on the loading screen
- Fixed display of the list of input devices in the voice chat settings
- Added post-battle message to the hangar informing about the amount of credits deducted for killing or damaging allies
- Fixed not being able to click on some squares of minimap after changing the size of the game window
- Fixed blank lines in some of the graphics settings for certain configurations
- Fixed reset of graphics settings to "custom" when you change default graphic presets
- Fixed text descriptions for some tanks
- Fixed error with incorrect selection of the most "weak" crew member for training during the accelerated crew training
- Fixed error when players couldn't leave the clan by themselves

[Adelheit]

Not much love for my German Tanks :(

Still love my PzKpfw III tho.

Is there a RL channel btw?

[Gunhead]

There's a clan chat by default when you join up - poke Skully to invite you to 284TH.

[Adelheit]

Thanks, will do.

[Tapja]

First impressions:

New voices are bad.
Pershing as replacement for T23 is a definite upgrade - expect nerfs :)
US top tier TDs seem awesome, gonna get me some (40k done on E8, 20 to go).

[Gunhead]

Dun like the new voices either, they sound too eager, too yankee-doodle. The more formal old ones fitted a lot better.

[Maurgrim]

The voices...ugh...

Liking the new maps though I must say. Haven't seen the redesigned ones yet though.

[Stokvis]

Thanks, will do.

I just sent you an invite. You can find it at www.worloftanks.eu
Log into that site with your email and pw. Then log in again in the link in the upper right corner of the "My Profile"screen. There shoulb be an invitation to the 284TH in the menu at the right at the screen.

If it doesn't work we can help you out on TS tonight.

[Gunhead]

Just a heads up all tankers: for the next four days it'll be worth playing through your garage for the first victory bonus - they're doing a special "Kursk Operation" in memory of the Battle of Kursk July 1st through 4th. Which means daily 1st win xp bonus has a x5 multiplier for the duration. So mount up for sum mint xp!

http://game.worldoftanks.eu/news/general_news/kursk_operation

[Saltydog]

Just a heads up all tankers: for the next four days it'll be worth playing through your garage for the first victory bonus - they're doing a special "Kursk Operation" in memory of the Battle of Kursk July 1st through 4th. Which means daily 1st win xp bonus has a x5 multiplier for the duration. So mount up for sum mint xp!

http://game.worldoftanks.eu/news/general_news/kursk_operation

Ahhhh I wondered how I got 2.4k xp with a T4 Arty already. I blamed it on skills obviously.

[Gunhead]

Obviously.

[Taylor]

This worth playing Gun?

...I'd like to shoot some people who are in tanks, preferably whilst in a tank of my own. Is this that kind of game?

[Stokvis]

It is like that. 15 vs 15 in tanks... either kill em all or capture the flag. I love it.

[Gunhead]

This worth playing Gun?

...I'd like to shoot some people who are in tanks, preferably whilst in a tank of my own. Is this that kind of game?

It definitely is young master Benjamin! It's really slick and straightforward to play at the same time while the mechanics behind the scenes are shockingly complicated (shell penetration, flight time, angle of impact, engine fires, detection distance, camouflage and more come to play under the hood). In my opinion this one's a keeper. Once you manage past the tier 1 starter tractors things start to get addictive fast.

[Taylor]

Yeah my glorified bike, small man-sized metal box, metal straw and pea ammunition have not done too well for me so far...I've shot some people though but I haven't registered a kill of my own. I expected to at least have a sizable speed advantage, but no.

One day...One day.

[Hincey]

Soon as you get a little way up the research points tree in the first tank you should be doing alright, my only advice at the start is to just hang back a bit and try hide in a bush and snipe shit. Get and invite to the guild from Stok and it'll be easier to sort a platoon out. Get on TS if you want also i'm just with dougal here atm.

[Jorpmeister]

To many mages in 284th... we need more hunters ! ! !

IN TAYLOR WE TRUST

[Stokvis]

Taylor, what's your ingame name? I found about 15 Taylors, so not sure wich one to invite.

[Taylor]

Sorry mate I'm called Dyers.

[Gunhead]

Just thought to post this incase someone else besides me has missed it previously:

Upcoming revised tech trees (http://game.worldoftanks.eu/news/full-tech-trees-revised-and-improved)

They might be still subject to change afaik but it'll give a bit of guidelines to planning your progression.

[Bonaficus]

Thanks for the Link Gun

Also for people who want to know which tier tanks they will/can face in battle

Matchmaking table from WoT forums (http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/10168-match-making-system/)

[Athelas]

I'm still playing this my WoT name is KIASauron, got the following tanks

Tier 2: Mini Maus
Tier 5: KV
Tier 6: KV-3 | SU-100 | GW Panther
Tier 8: PZKpfw VIB Tiger II | Löwe | PzKpfw V Panther
Tier 9: IS-4
Tier 10:Maus

Working on an IS-7 atm about half way there, hopefully ill have it this week or next

KIA the clan im in are doing well, got most of Italy this week and our tactics are coming along nicely.

We have two divisions and have nearly filled the first so if any of you want in just give us a poke in game :)

Also just let us know the TS ur using these days, ill pop in if u guys are playing and say hello

[Athelas]

ok fellas, talked to Iron and Blade tonight and they seemed up for joining KIA, we need members and you guys know how to handle ur selves in mmos. Ill vouch for any of u just use me as a reference. Tier 5 and above will get in KIA1 for the mean time as we need chips for Clan wars the rest that are lower will get into KIA2 straight away

KIA have been playing the game since beta launched. We know our shizzle and im more than happy to see RL faces in their ranks.

http://www.kia-clan.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?116-World-of-Tanks-Public-forum

Follow that link and pls fill an app with me as reference for some clan war action when ur up to teir and constant platoon action for grinding tanks. We also have a very very good forum full of very useful info for this game.

Ta

Ath

[Blade]

ok fellas, talked to Iron and Blade tonight and they seemed up for joining KIA, we need members and you guys know how to handle ur selves in mmos. Ill vouch for any of u just use me as a reference. Tier 5 and above will get in KIA1 for the mean time as we need chips for Clan wars the rest that are lower will get into KIA2 straight away

KIA have been playing the game since beta launched. We know our shizzle and im more than happy to see RL faces in their ranks.

http://www.kia-clan.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?116-World-of-Tanks-Public-forum

Follow that link and pls fill an app with me as reference for some clan war action when ur up to teir and constant platoon action for grinding tanks. We also have a very very good forum full of very useful info for this game.

Ta

Ath

Idd Skull or any of u officers just kick me Im not abandning u in any way just gona se u on the other side... we can learn so much from thees players.

[leanmeankillingmachine]

I like the idea of joining too

[Athelas]

get your apps in and ill sort it :)

[Jorpmeister]

So who is trying KIA?
I am a little tempted to see the clan wars part also :o