Monshrey

[Fastwalker]

Oke about the raid on 17-5, i had a word with nemisis and they have some kinda council discussing these matters.

small summary: at drakkisath 3 bloods dropped, 2 were rolled for fair, 1 (which i rolled 93, no1 overroled) was nicked away by monshrey a 60 mage from Element. Which got me pissed again.

Anyway, really big thumb up for RL players in that raid for acting nice and not lootwhoring it all away. soz for the language F**K ELEMENT

Its np doing a ubrs raid again, cause lots of em on every nite... sucky it has togo like this again...

Hitting the sack now, gn guys :)

[Porthos]

That really sucks m8... :/

but u'll get it next time, dont worry

[Nikodemus]

I've grouped with Monshery before, acted just as bad not to mention played piss poorly. A prime example of it being way too easy to solo ones way to 60, then start joining raids there for loot and having no clue to how to play in a team. And an ass on top of that.

While we're at it, here's a two more to avoid for exactly the same reason:
Thunderball
Sickmage

[Gromagrim]

To avoid an altercation between guilds;

This was clearly the actions of an individual, rather than the policy of Element guild as a whole

[Fusion]

Don't forget that this forum is readable by anyone guys :)

[Nimu]

While we're at it, here's a two more to avoid for exactly the same reason:

Sickmage

I'll second that.

btw Fast - no-one looted the blood when you guys did UBRS with me (The run without priests, but 3 druids, a couple of weeks ago). I think you were there as well?

[Fusion]

btw Fast - no-one looted the blood when you guys did UBRS with me (The run without priests, but 3 druids, a couple of weeks ago). I think you were there as well? I'm guessing that no-one had the quest for the blood ;)

[Daymare]

bah that is shite =) but you can always count on there being some assholes in the game, some people that just can't stand fair play. Which is why guild raids > all =)

[Banadan]

On the run with all druids to what Nimu refers I got the blood. That's when we did Drakki with "group loot" mode on, I think, and when Drakki died, he was on my "loot list", so to say. So when the people rolled on the items and looted them, Drakki's corpse was closed to all but me. I saw it 'sparkle' and no one else did, so we thought that when I loot the corpse (I had not opened it up myself yet) it becomes available to others as well, as it usually does. And I needed the blood anyway as well. So I opened the corpse and saw 2 bloods on him, I looted one and immediately was kicked out of the corpse's inventory, basically I didn't close it myself. 1 blood remained on corpse, but then the corpse was not accessible to me anymore, and as we found out, to no one else either. So, basically, 1 blood rotted away.

That's when we opened the ticket to GM's and they said that "It's known bug and we're working on it". Looks like they still work on it... The downside is that in order to get the blood now, the Drakki has to be done with "Free For All" loot mode on (don't know if Master Looter system would work?) and this basically calls for ninja looters.

All what I can say is that do the GUILD RUNS. Screw the "2 classes per raid" thing - if you have free spots in the raid, better to fill it up with people from the guild rather then call in random people outside of the guild. So what if there's 5 hunters on the raid? It means 5 times more DPS and while rolling, having 1 chance against 4 is still better then having 0 chance. Only fill in the spots from outside of the guild if you're lacking the needed classes and none are available in the guild, and even then rather contact the people you know instead of asking in LFG channel in IF. Ninja looters know that at least for Drakki, they have 'free hands' due to bugged blood thing and FFA system used.

Besides that, keep logging them tickets to GM's asking for the update on Drakki's fix - the more they get bugged, maybe the faster they move their lazy asses :D

[Nimu]

On the run with all druids to what Nimu refers I got the blood. That's when we did Drakki with "group loot" mode on, I think, and when Drakki died, he was on my "loot list", so to say.

Nah, it was where a portal popped up on the corpse and you accidently clicked it :)

Kaldor-->The purpose for that run was to get the blood, but of course it could be that Fast didn't have the quest then. I know me and Bana had, and while i got the blood, Bana didn't(For some mysterious reason?).

[Nathaniel]

I'm up for a UBRS raid tonight guys so pm and we'll go and get some more blood :)

[Banadan]

Nah, it was where a portal popped up on the corpse and you accidently clicked it :)

OK, that was after the one then, when I already had the blood... Ah, so it was YOU then who popped that portal in front of me?! :D

Yeah, I recall now someone asking for all to check if they can open the corpse and if they can see the blood on it, I went to try and just when I used the corpse, someone popped out the portal to IF right in front of me and I used the portal instead.. Was kinda wierd to use the corpse and next thing find myself in Ironforge...

[Dojun]

Was in there 2 sad story... Mayb the guild should have a "not to party with list" where we can report ppl and the reason for not recomending them to other guilders. It really sucks to find out after you got ninjad like last night that the person is allready infamous.

[Banadan]

And who can remember them all.. We can't tell to someone whom we're inviting "Hold on a moment while we run a background check on you". Don't think there's any UI mod also out there, where you could record the name and as soon as you invite that person, the mod pops up a window with big red flashing text telling "XXX is a NINJA LOOTER!" :D

I still say that better involve on raids as many guildies as possible, even when there's more then the "perfect 2 or 3 per class", if there's room and all the crucial classes are present. I rather see 5 hunters from guild on the runs or well known friends outside of guild, instead of some random faces whom I've never met and probably wont meet anymore and who may as well be ninja looters..

[Ramiraz]

Not entirely true Bana....the way you explain it happened is completely correct, but I most certantly was on the run where you got your blood ( I remember needing the blood, but that only 1 was lootable )=P

[Banadan]

No. The run when I did get the blood, there was no portal made before the looting was done. On that run, the portal was summoned after we confirmed, all, that no one can access the body anymore, and that was a run before some sneaky mage zapped the portal in front of me :)

I already had the blood at that time - actually, I already had the amulet on me - so I was heading to corpse to see if I could open it. Wasn't sparkling to me, but who knows, maybe it would. Like with the gems in LBRS - all have to use the corpse at times before the gem pops into view.

[Dojun]

And who can remember them all.. We can't tell to someone whom we're inviting "Hold on a moment while we run a background check on you". Don't think there's any UI mod also out there, where you could record the name and as soon as you invite that person, the mod pops up a window with big red flashing text telling "XXX is a NINJA LOOTER!" :D



We could use the forums to post names on ppl that ninja and such. Its up to each and everyone to keep updated on that. Personally i use my ignore in game for ninjas and such. And i only check names if i seem to recognize them otherwise i dont bother.

[Fastwalker]

Originally Posted by Nimu
btw Fast - no-one looted the blood when you guys did UBRS with me (The run without priests, but 3 druids, a couple of weeks ago). I think you were there as well?

no i wasnt + i didnt had the drakfire amulet quest back then.. btw this isnt the first time i see element ninja stuff away.

anyway RL raids for me, else no raid :p