Hunter Weapons

[Fusion]

There is a massive debate on the various database sites over what melee weapons suit Hunters and conversly why only the warrior should roll on them. So I felt it might be handy to post here what exactly we need.

All we need from weapons are passive effects like Stat boosts (preferably Agility, Strength and Stamina), +Attack Power, +Crit which will be equipped all of the time and improve our ranged attack damage (+dodge is also handy but not essential). We care not for weapons with procs on them as we don't melee enough usually for them to go off regularly.

So Warriors and Paladins, when a weapon drops like Barbarous Blade, Peacemaker or Grimlok's Charge please pass if the Hunter needs it as he will get a hell of a lot more use out of it than you will :)

[Gromagrim]

I assume the last bit was a joke? Melee classes not only benefit from the stats you listed, but from the actual damage as well. That's like saying a warrior should get a ranged weapon over a hunter just because it has a +stam bonus Dengar :p

OK Hunters should aim for a nice weapon, but thinking they should get the nod before a melee class is a bit silly. There are plenty of Tiger/Monkey greens out there if you just want the buffs

[Fusion]

I assume the last bit was a joke? Melee classes not only benefit from the stats you listed, but from the actual damage as well. That's like saying a warrior should get a ranged weapon over a hunter just because it has a +stam bonus Dengar :p

OK Hunters should aim for a nice weapon, but thinking they should get the nod before a melee class is a bit silly. All I was trying to point out is there are hundreds more weapons that suit melee classes, there is extremely few weapons for Hunters. So when in the unlikley event a weapon that a weapon that is good for a hunter drops, consider hitting that pass button for a change. :) There are plenty of Tiger/Monkey greens out there if you just want the buffs I have yet to find a green with 53 agi on it that would give a hunter a comparable critical bonus, if you find one, let me know :)

[Dojun]

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=35900 Typhoon. Dont come and say its a hunter sword. +20 agil is not much. And if you are aiming for +crit go 2 dawns edge that will make +2 crit.

[Banadan]

One thing what paladins aim for are weapons, which have HIGH damage values, especially high max damage value. Why? Because we use Seal of Command, which adds damage based on WEAPON damage. Which means that high damage weapons will make that SoC damage fly through roof as well. This very same Barbarous Blade - as a paladin, I will SO roll on it if I see it drop. High damage which makes my SoC damage high, not to mention my usual damage higher (talents to raise melee damage, plus talent which adds 15% damage for 10 seconds to ANY attacks I make after a crit - imagine the crits made when this talent is active, and I do crit plenty). It also has bonus to attack, which directly raises my DPS, plus it also raises crit chance... Sheesh! As a paladin, I would so roll on this weapon, big time :D Now whether I actually would win it, that's a different issue.

Personally the way I see it, is that the big bad weapons, in general, should go first to the classes who actually use melee damage as their main, or only, damage. After that come other classes, who have other means of doing the damage. Of course, since we use rolling and no 'raid loot point system', or direct gear assignment, it's somewhat moot point, because all who can use, will roll on it anyway. Of course, as far as I am concerned, you can always get Grimlok's Charge - it is fast, but low damage weapon and for paladin, not good enough (too low damage to use with SoC for best effect, too slow to use when tanking). Peacemaker - all yours. But on the sword - I'd be rolling, as it blows my current sword way out of the water and is useful :D

[TheIcon]

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/itemset.html?setid=41

Why not aim for this set rather then the Barbarouse Blade :)

[Shinigami]

As a hunter, I expect other classes not to roll on ranged weapons if a hunter needs it.

As a melee class, I'd expect a hunter not to roll on a melee weapon if a melee class needs it.

[Fusion]

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/itemset.html?setid=41

Why not aim for this set rather then the Barbarouse Blade :) Because the Barbarous Blade is better :)

[Fusion]

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=35900 Typhoon. Dont come and say its a hunter sword. +20 agil is not much. And if you are aiming for +crit go 2 dawns edge that will make +2 crit. Barbarous Blade is better for Hunters.

Problem with Dawn's Edge is that you're going to have to pay 200g+ per axe...

[Shinigami]

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=35900 Typhoon. Dont come and say its a hunter sword. +20 agil is not much. And if you are aiming for +crit go 2 dawns edge that will make +2 crit. Barbarous Blade is better for Hunters.

Problem with Dawn's Edge is that you're going to have to pay 200g+ per axe...

I paid 60 and 80... alternatively you could ask Reno, he is an Axesmith IIRC.

For +2% crit, the Treants Bane from the DM loot chest is a better option. If you do DM North you have a pretty good chance of getting either that or the Barbarous Blade, but you'll have to compete with the warriors and paladins.

[Fusion]

I hadn't realised the Dawn's Edge was a crafted item :p

The point of the thread which everybody seems to have missed was that out of the huge selection of weapons that are available for rogues, warriors and paladins, these are the couple of weapons that are actually going to be usefull in the hands of the Hunter.

The real issue to address is we need less of people blindly rolling on items just because they can use them, its a shame when rogues end up with Band of Flesh or a Warriors with Painweaver Band. I'm no angel in this respect either... Hopefully DKP will sort this out for raids in the future. :)

I'm coming to think that too much %crit can be a bad thing in PvE... My crit rate is around 20% at the moment (with various +%crit items and talents) and I am constantly pulling the aggro off my pet when I solo, and I even manage to do it in instances sometimes ;)

Beaststalker set for PvE, %Crit for PvP.

[Dojun]

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=35900 Typhoon. Dont come and say its a hunter sword. +20 agil is not much. And if you are aiming for +crit go 2 dawns edge that will make +2 crit. Barbarous Blade is better for Hunters.

Problem with Dawn's Edge is that you're going to have to pay 200g+ per axe...

I paid 60 and 80... alternatively you could ask Reno, he is an Axesmith IIRC.

For +2% crit, the Treants Bane from the DM loot chest is a better option. If you do DM North you have a pretty good chance of getting either that or the Barbarous Blade, but you'll have to compete with the warriors and paladins.


I really hope a hunter wouldnt roll vs a warrior/pala for Treants Bane. +2 crit sure is awesome but the dps is not needed for hunters. +2 crit you can get from 2 dawns edge. http://www.thottbot.com/?i=36492 and the + str and stam is not that crucial for a hunter

[Fusion]

I really hope a hunter wouldnt roll vs a warrior/pala for Treants Bane. +2 crit sure is awesome but the dps is not needed for hunters. +2 crit you can get from 2 dawns edge. http://www.thottbot.com/?i=36492 and the + str and stam is not that crucial for a hunter Arcanite Reaper suits a Warrior more, it's okay for Palas and again Hunters. But its a 2h so Warriors and Palas are only going to use it when soloing whereas a Hunter might equip it all the time (allthought there are better weapons for them too) -- FFA imo :)

[Dojun]

I really hope a hunter wouldnt roll vs a warrior/pala for Treants Bane. +2 crit sure is awesome but the dps is not needed for hunters. +2 crit you can get from 2 dawns edge. http://www.thottbot.com/?i=36492 and the + str and stam is not that crucial for a hunter Arcanite Reaper suits a Warrior more, it's okay for Palas and again Hunters. But its a 2h so Warriors and Palas are only going to use it when soloing whereas a Hunter might equip it all the time (allthought there are better weapons for them too) -- FFA imo :)



a hunter would benefit a lot more from 2 dawns edge. As you are not supposed to go into melee. Pala can oftenly use 2h in instances bcz there are enugh warriors that do the tanking then its better to use 2h for dmg then to "tank" a mob that a warrior keeps taunting

[Fusion]

As you are not supposed to go into melee. Blizz wouldn't have given Hunters the ability to use melee weapons, additional melee attacks and a melee talent tree if we weren't supposed to use melee.

Whilst 2% crit chance is nice for PvP, Rend's swords and the Barbarous Blade are a much better option in PvE for increasing overall dps whilst avoiding pulling aggro off the tank with too many crits...

[Dojun]

As you are not supposed to go into melee. Blizz wouldn't have given Hunters the ability to use melee weapons, additional melee attacks and a melee talent tree if we weren't supposed to use melee.

Whilst 2% crit chance is nice for PvP, Rend's swords and the Barbarous Blade are a much better option in PvE for increasing overall dps whilst avoiding pulling aggro off the tank with too many crits...


This i can agree on, what i wanted to say was that the real rare and extreem high dps would benefit a melee class most. When i was in DM and won the Barbarous Blade it was bcz a non guild warrior had rolled over my guild hunter friend. Otherwise i would have passed it on to him